Except they still haven’t called the lodge cost problem. Just because they own 
the launch mechanism, doesn’t mean there isn’t a cost associated with it. You 
still have a cost negative at that point unless you can figure out a way to 
make it positive even if it’s on a different company.

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 07:02, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What are you basing cost effective on?  Launch costs?  Satellite cost?  
> Ground Station Cost?  CPE?  
> 
> I'm pretty sure SpaceX can take care of the first two.  The issue with launch 
> costs is there isn't enough volume to support high frequency low cost 
> launches, except that they solve their own problem by becoming their own 
> customer.  Satellite cost gets solved by volume.  Ground Stations are pretty 
> solvable.  The big issue that I see is the CPE side.   I don't think they 
> understand the difficulty of installing/maintaining for the residential 
> market.  There will be massive uptake for DIA like services, but the 
> residential side is going to need some sort of local ecosystem and CPE costs 
> won't be workable for quite awhile.  
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 5:19 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I honestly don’t see this being cost effective to keep up and operational. 
>> 
>> Maybe I’m wrong. 
>> 
>> Not worried about competition. Have you seen how poorly Comcast gets rated?
>> 
>> And if it does work - as has been said - now I can backhaul to places faster 
>> and more efficiently. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 06:12, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the rural market perhaps, but we don't really do the rural market. I'd 
>>> be more worries about other people doing exactly what I'm thinking about so 
>>> instead of just competing with Comcast, (And with the Verizon steamroller 
>>> coming down the pipe), we will be competing with them and 100 other small 
>>> ISPs who can suddenly cover markets all over the US with just a few local 
>>> techs in each market.  I think it will be great for the internet in the 
>>> long run but I'd like to get out ahead of it.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 9:16 AM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> You don't see a problem competing against it?   Isn't it going to be end 
>>>> user/last mile service?
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/15/18 5:16 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>>> > It would be a big mess for a short time but these are really low so it 
>>>> > would de-orbit quickly.  I'm really interested in what this would do for 
>>>> > building a decentralized WISP/MDU ISP.  If I get PTP Gig or 10Gig from 
>>>> > anywhere to anywhere it would make building/expanding an ISP a whole lot 
>>>> > easier.
>>>> > 
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