The Lite on ePMP is great. Get a $540 AP for $285. A lot of people are using 
them in low density areas... or areas where they use a bunch of horns for 
better RF conditions. It does cost more that way if you do upgrade it, but most 
bank on not ever needing to upgrade. 




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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 10:36:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts 



OK, I didn’t know ePMP had Lites. I thought Cambium had learned their lesson 
about license keys and didn’t do it on ePMP, which I guess is true as far as 
capacity keys. 


From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 10:20 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts 



I don't think there ever were any 450i Lite APs, so I suppose if the standard 
450 isn't being produced anymore, the Canopy Lite AP is probably a thing of the 
past... but we don't use them, so I don't know for sure. 



They do still make and sell ePMP 1000 and ePMP 2000 Lite APs. It doesn't sound 
like there are any plans for an ePMP 3000 Lite AP, however. 



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 




Do they even sell the Lite APs anymore? Not the upgrade keys, but new Lite APs? 

I kind of assume we are going to have to replace all the 450 APs with 450i at 
some point, and if we need to upgrade a Lite, just swap out the AP rather than 
buy the license key. Maybe redeploy the Lite. 

It’s a pain remembering which are 450 and which are 450i, remembering which 
have internal GPS sync and which don’t, remembering which need 24V power and 
which need 48V, which have GigE interfaces, which take Cambium sync, and if you 
ever had 430 APs, which had different pinouts. But Cambium likes to keep moving 
our cheese and making our life difficult challenging interesting. 




From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 9:19 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts 

I just don’t see why something like this takes this long to accomplish. I could 
have bought and shipped an actual AP to my office faster than getting a license 
key. I see where you guys have circumvented the wait time but should we really 
have to do that? I definitely like using the Lite APs because like you some of 
them I won’t ever have to upgrade but right now #11 is sitting there waiting as 
patient as a customer can. This is also the first Lite AP I’ve ever had to 
upgrade. I wasn’t aware the process took this long in 2019. 


Andy Trimmell 
Business Manager 
PDS Connect 
317-831-3000 



From: AF [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:52 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts 



If you use Lite APs, you need to just make sure you always have at least one 
license key stored, and get new one ordered as soon as you use it. 



It does cost a little bit more to use Lite APs and then upgrade them, but in a 
lot of cases we never have to upgrade them... there's also the advantage that 
if the AP dies after it's out of warranty, you can get Cambium to transfer the 
license to a new Lite AP. 



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
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Because the work is done in advance. 



As far as ePMP I stock Lite radios on the shelf and 1 full in the van for quick 
repairs. I have license keys stored on my account with a lite to full key so I 
can do that in a pinch. It's kind of the same money but I have lite radios I 
can replace and I don't need to put up full ones in any event. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:48 AM Andy Trimmell < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
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I have no idea why it takes so long to get a license key when I can literally 
get an actual AP here overnight with ground shipping. I should have just bought 
the big boy version. In this day and age you’d think it was almost instant. 

/rant off 

Andy Trimmell 
Business Manager 
PDS Connect 
317-831-3000 

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