I’m sure it all leaks and causes noise.

We are still tracking the noise down and trying to determine the sources so
that we can avoid them.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:54 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> What about satellite TV, does that still use VHF/UHF channels over coax
> and does it leak?  Like from unterminated taps on splitters and stuff?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TVWS CPE antenna
>
>
>
> You should also check to see how noisy TVWS spectrum is too.
>
>
>
> We are burried in the mtn and the databases all show every channel is
> available except 10 (can’t use below 14 anyway) and 33.  Otherwise the
> spectrum should be clear.  Well I think the Comcast plant must be super
> leaky because there’s a lot of noise we didn’t expect.
>
>
>
> Also you can get noise from distant TV transmitters.  In our area that
> shouldn’t be the cause since there’s 150 miles and 2 mountain ranges
> between us and any transmitters (besides channel 10 & 33)
>
>
>
> We will be able to use TVWS but the noise will probably slow the system
> down a bit.  We are still in the testing phase.
>
>
>
> We are going to install next in a town that has no CableTV
>
>
>
> YMMV
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 6:28 AM David Coudron <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes, that is where our head is at as well.   We have some very small
> pockets of customers that line a lake in our region.   Due to the uneven
> shoreline and the ridge between the shoreline and the rest of the network
> we have LOS issues getting to these folks.   We are thinking a couple of
> APs at the most along the ridge.   Some we could get LOS, but most are
> going to have tree issues as the shoreline has quite a few trees on it.
> Because of the speeds and the investment in equipment, this is our last
> resort as mentioned below.
>
>
>
> The only two options for APs and CPEs that we can find are Carlson
> Wireless and Redline Communication.     We could consider 900 MHz, but we
> believe that the spectrum is going to be too noisy.    At first we thought
> we’d get TVWS options going, but didn’t realize they might be this
> limited.   We may need to get up there and see how noisy the 900 MHz
> spectrum really is.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David Coudron
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 12:44 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TVWS CPE antenna
>
>
>
> TVWS is an install of last resort.
>
>
>
> LOS 5ghz is preferred
>
>
>
> LOS 3ghz is used when noise or distance for 5ghz is an issue
>
>
>
> nLOS TVWS is used to get the remaining clients on our network
>
>
>
> If there wasn’t so much granite around Colorado I might prefer friber
> too.  Wireless is much easier to deploy in the mtns.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:20 PM Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Those are still mighty expensive antennas for a residential CPE. I think
> I'd rather just spend my money on fiber subs.
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mars Antennas - MA-WA580-DP8B
>
>
> Mars Antennas - MA-WA580-DP10B
>
>
>
> With redline
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 1:33 PM Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> For those of you using this equipment, what options do you have for CPE
> antenna?  The options I've been quoted both look like they're going to make
> for a ~$700 CPE cost, which is quite a bit more than I'm willing to spend.
>
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