I wonder if that is a change with them looking towards 5G in small cells
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From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>, "Lewis Bergman"
<[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wisp value
Date: Tue, Jul 16, 2019 2:03 PM
Oh? That's news to me... American seems to be buying up tons of cold
steel with no customers on them.
On 7/16/19 3:01 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> A tower company won't want a tower bought in eBay.
> They want towers that have ASR, environmental certs, 2 carrier, etc.
> They also are not interested in towers without good annual revenue
> numbers. You might be able to ditch some in a bundle with revenue
> producing towers but those will be deducted but added from the number.
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 1:54 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> At least in our area, tower companies (mostly older 2-way providers)
> are not buying / building many towers - most of the builds outside
> of WISPs are cell carriers, who will only use heavier-duty towers
> than what most WISPs will build.
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Matt Hoppes
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Remove? Why not sell them to a tower company?
>
> On 7/16/19 12:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
> >
> > 1) if he doesn't have the money you're not going to get it.
> > 2) i've been thinking about this a lot lately too. everyone
> who only
> > values based on annual revenue (as i used to do and have made
> several
> > purchases based on that) is probably not taking into account
> owned
> > vertical real estate. a lot of times smaller wisps are only
> renting
> > water tanks or someone else's tower but as you get bigger you
> tend to
> > build. i think we must own at least 15 towers...i'm not
> sure. we don't
> > own the land (we own SOME of the land) but we do own the towers.
> > if you're shutting down, there is money involved in REMOVING
> those towers.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:59 AM
> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wisp value
> >
> > I've been mentoring a friend of mine, he's young and rather
> > ambitious. He started out his 'wisp' using a residential
> cable
> > connection, I've helped him for basically free for the
> last three
> > years grow his base to 250 customers, he just last week
> acquired a
> > failing wisp with 65 subs on a no money down, pay us a
> commission
> > basis. I've been managing most of his core network and
> providing him
> > IPv4 and transit for a steal of a price, I even loaned him a
> > substantial amount of cash recently to buy a bunch of surplus
> > equipment. Well anyway I guess he got caught with another
> women and
> > his wife is demanding he shut down or sell the wisp for
> > whatever reason, he called and put this all on my plate
> today.
> >
> > Instead of offering to sell me the company (I don't
> really want it)
> > he tellse that he's going to try selling to a local
> competitor whom
> > I consider slightly a better personal than a child molester.
> >
> > So anyway I'll try to stop rambling, what's a wisp Worth
> these days?
> > Gross revenue for a year is what I figure (max) with his
> all used
> > ubnt equipment?
> >
> > The other dilemma is that he's about 3 months behind on
> his transit
> > and his note is due for repayment Monday ~$15k total.
> >
> > I need a way to ensure I get paid current and I don't let
> him get
> > behind during the 'sale'. I was thinking to quit being
> the nice guy
> > and demand the past due balance + the note in full + 3 months
> > transit in advance so I don't get screwed during the sale
> process if
> > he gets behind again. I don't know if he can even come up
> with the
> > money and my only leverage is to turn his port down... I
> have a
> > strange feeling he may try to stall me as long as
> possible until the
> > competition can thing in transit and run off without
> paying the bill....
> >
> >
> > Sorry for he rant, just sick of helping people because
> every time I
> > do I end up regretting it.
> >
> > TJ
> >
> >
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