I would be interested in the total of those transactions. My experience may
be out of date in that 5G might encourage them to buy unproductive assets.
Or, what they bought might be part of a much larger deal that fits my
earlier statement. Who knows.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Oh?  That's news to me... American seems to be buying up tons of cold
> steel with no customers on them.
>
> On 7/16/19 3:01 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> > A tower company won't want a tower bought in eBay.
> > They want towers that have ASR, environmental certs, 2 carrier, etc.
> > They also are not interested in towers without good annual revenue
> > numbers. You might be able to ditch some in a bundle with revenue
> > producing towers but those will be deducted but added from the number.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 1:54 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     At least in our area, tower companies (mostly older 2-way providers)
> >     are not buying / building many towers - most of the builds outside
> >     of WISPs are cell carriers, who will only use heavier-duty towers
> >     than what most WISPs will build.
> >
> >     On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Matt Hoppes
> >     <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> >     <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >
> >         Remove?  Why not sell them to a tower company?
> >
> >         On 7/16/19 12:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
> >          > 
> >          > 1) if he doesn't have the money you're not going to get it.
> >          > 2) i've been thinking about this a lot lately too.  everyone
> >         who only
> >          > values based on annual revenue (as i used to do and have made
> >         several
> >          > purchases based on that) is probably not taking into account
> >         owned
> >          > vertical real estate.  a lot of times smaller wisps are only
> >         renting
> >          > water tanks or someone else's tower but as you get bigger you
> >         tend to
> >          > build.  i think we must own at least 15 towers...i'm not
> >         sure.  we don't
> >          > own the land (we own SOME of the land) but we do own the
> towers.
> >          > if you're shutting down, there is money involved in REMOVING
> >         those towers.
> >          >
> >          >     ----- Original Message -----
> >          >     *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com
> >         <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>>
> >          >     *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >         <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> >          >     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:59 AM
> >          >     *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wisp value
> >          >
> >          >     I've been mentoring a friend of mine, he's young and
> rather
> >          >     ambitious. He started out his 'wisp' using a residential
> >         cable
> >          >     connection, I've helped him for basically free for the
> >         last three
> >          >     years grow his base to 250 customers, he just last week
> >         acquired a
> >          >     failing wisp with 65 subs on a no money down, pay us a
> >         commission
> >          >     basis. I've been managing most of his core network and
> >         providing him
> >          >     IPv4 and transit for a steal of a price, I even loaned
> him a
> >          >     substantial amount of cash recently to buy a bunch of
> surplus
> >          >     equipment. Well anyway I guess he got caught with another
> >         women and
> >          >     his wife is demanding he shut down or sell the wisp for
> >          >     whatever reason, he called and put this all on my plate
> >         today.
> >          >
> >          >     Instead of offering to sell me the company (I don't
> >         really want it)
> >          >     he tellse that he's going to try selling to a local
> >         competitor whom
> >          >     I consider slightly a better personal than a child
> molester.
> >          >
> >          >     So anyway I'll try to stop rambling, what's a wisp Worth
> >         these days?
> >          >     Gross revenue for a year is what I figure (max) with his
> >         all used
> >          >     ubnt equipment?
> >          >
> >          >     The other dilemma is that he's about 3 months behind on
> >         his transit
> >          >     and his note is due for repayment Monday ~$15k total.
> >          >
> >          >     I need a way to ensure I get paid current and I don't let
> >         him get
> >          >     behind during the 'sale'. I was thinking to quit being
> >         the nice guy
> >          >     and demand the past due balance + the note in full + 3
> months
> >          >     transit in advance so I don't get screwed during the sale
> >         process if
> >          >     he gets behind again. I don't know if he can even come up
> >         with the
> >          >     money and my only leverage is to turn his port down... I
> >         have a
> >          >     strange feeling he may try to stall me as long as
> >         possible until the
> >          >     competition can thing in transit and run off without
> >         paying the bill....
> >          >
> >          >
> >          >     Sorry for he rant, just sick of helping people because
> >         every time I
> >          >     do I end up regretting it.
> >          >
> >          >     TJ
> >          >
> >          >
> >
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