Unless it is in a unique and highly desirable location, don't those guys at a minimum want ANSI Rev. G? Also fenced enclosure, all weather access road, H-frame for power and telco, lighting, coax supports, climbing ladder, safety cable, structural analysis, etc., but maybe they are willing to do that and deduct it from the sale price.
I don't see them buying a tower that doesn't meet Rev. G and structurally be able to mount backhaul dishes and sector frames for at least 2 carriers. That doesn't sound like a 25G next to a barn, even it's a genuine Rohn 25G not a knockoff. -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 2:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>; Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wisp value Oh? That's news to me... American seems to be buying up tons of cold steel with no customers on them. On 7/16/19 3:01 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > A tower company won't want a tower bought in eBay. > They want towers that have ASR, environmental certs, 2 carrier, etc. > They also are not interested in towers without good annual revenue > numbers. You might be able to ditch some in a bundle with revenue > producing towers but those will be deducted but added from the number. > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 1:54 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > At least in our area, tower companies (mostly older 2-way providers) > are not buying / building many towers - most of the builds outside > of WISPs are cell carriers, who will only use heavier-duty towers > than what most WISPs will build. > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Matt Hoppes > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Remove? Why not sell them to a tower company? > > On 7/16/19 12:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > > > 1) if he doesn't have the money you're not going to get it. > > 2) i've been thinking about this a lot lately too. everyone > who only > > values based on annual revenue (as i used to do and have made > several > > purchases based on that) is probably not taking into account > owned > > vertical real estate. a lot of times smaller wisps are only > renting > > water tanks or someone else's tower but as you get bigger you > tend to > > build. i think we must own at least 15 towers...i'm not > sure. we don't > > own the land (we own SOME of the land) but we do own the towers. > > if you're shutting down, there is money involved in REMOVING > those towers. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:59 AM > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wisp value > > > > I've been mentoring a friend of mine, he's young and rather > > ambitious. He started out his 'wisp' using a residential > cable > > connection, I've helped him for basically free for the > last three > > years grow his base to 250 customers, he just last week > acquired a > > failing wisp with 65 subs on a no money down, pay us a > commission > > basis. I've been managing most of his core network and > providing him > > IPv4 and transit for a steal of a price, I even loaned him a > > substantial amount of cash recently to buy a bunch of surplus > > equipment. Well anyway I guess he got caught with another > women and > > his wife is demanding he shut down or sell the wisp for > > whatever reason, he called and put this all on my plate > today. > > > > Instead of offering to sell me the company (I don't > really want it) > > he tellse that he's going to try selling to a local > competitor whom > > I consider slightly a better personal than a child molester. > > > > So anyway I'll try to stop rambling, what's a wisp Worth > these days? > > Gross revenue for a year is what I figure (max) with his > all used > > ubnt equipment? > > > > The other dilemma is that he's about 3 months behind on > his transit > > and his note is due for repayment Monday ~$15k total. > > > > I need a way to ensure I get paid current and I don't let > him get > > behind during the 'sale'. I was thinking to quit being > the nice guy > > and demand the past due balance + the note in full + 3 months > > transit in advance so I don't get screwed during the sale > process if > > he gets behind again. I don't know if he can even come up > with the > > money and my only leverage is to turn his port down... I > have a > > strange feeling he may try to stall me as long as > possible until the > > competition can thing in transit and run off without > paying the bill.... > > > > > > Sorry for he rant, just sick of helping people because > every time I > > do I end up regretting it. > > > > TJ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
