My cheap ROKU only does wifi.  The more expensive one has a heavy remote and 
seems to have ethernet issues.   I was always a proponent of ethernet to 
anything not moving but I am as lazy as everyone else now.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 1:08 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] troubleshooting smart TV complaints?

99% of what customers do can be explained by (a) people are cheap or (b) people 
are lazy.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 7:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] troubleshooting smart TV complaints?

 

WiFi to the TV send like a waste. The TV never moves. Why not run a damn cable? 
I never have issues like this when the TV is hardwired. 

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 7:53 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  Does the hive mind have any suggestions for troubleshooting complaints like 
“my LG smart TV can’t connect to Amazon Prime in the evening, it says to 
contact my ISP”?  Not an insufficient speed error, a cannot connect to the 
service error.  Yet the TV is connected to their WiFi, and its local IP address 
can be pinged just fine from the router.

   

  Let’s say their connection checks out totally OK, and even though the only 
thing they do on the Internet is watch Amazon Prime (because it’s essentially 
free), we get them to  check some other stuff like going to Google from their 
phone or running a Netflix speedtest at fast.com and that seems OK also.

   

  If everything else seems OK, it seems like a pointless adventure of reset 
your router, reset your TV, update the apps on your TV, try some other 
streaming service like Netflix or Hulu, oh you don’t have subscriptions.  Do 
you get sucked into that, or just say call the TV manufacturer, call Amazon 
Prime?  They are just going to say call your ISP.  I’m tempted to say there are 
dozens of streaming services, if Amazon Prime isn’t working for you, switch to 
Netflix, Hulu, etc.  I know at one time people would have trouble with their 
early Samsung smart TVs and I would tell them to call a computer guy who would 
tell them their router and TV were incompatible and sell them a new router.  So 
it’s not ALWAYS your ISP’s fault.

   

  At least with a website that’s not working, you can do pings and traceroutes 
to its IP address.  I have no idea how to check reachability, packet loss, 
latency, etc. to Amazon Prime.

   

  And if people complain about rebuffering or video quality there is a TCP 
connection we can torch and figure out where the traffic is going.  How do you 
troubleshoot with a TV?

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