High speed chases aren't at 70. We drove my denali when it was brand
new out on the backside of 50 across Nevada with no speed limits. MPH
at 70 was about 15. At 100... 8 MPG at 125 with the rev limiter
kicking in it was 4 MPG... Actual data collected on the trip and we
stopped at every darn gas station we could find... But we had a hell
of a fun trip...
On 11/30/2019 07:46 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
All of our vehicles show range.
Never have I ever seen that kind of drop going from 35mph to 70 on the
highway or higher.
On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50
miles of range left (most gas vehicles do have that feature these
days...), if you go from driving a gas car at 50 MPH to 120 MPH, your
MPG is going to drop too, and not a small amount.
I probably wouldn't want to only have an electric car at this point,
because there are absolutely situations where they simply aren't
practical, and there are places that there's no practical way to get
to in my Tesla (I'd either have to drive 50-100 miles out of the way
to stop at a Supercharger, or find another way of charging, which
would take hours)... or I might need to go somewhere 80 miles away at
the end of the day, and don't have time to wait for a supercharger...
in that case, I'll just drive my Jeep.
That said, I haven't yet needed to go anywhere that was a problem in
the Tesla, and the time I've spent at superchargers adds up to a lot
less than the time I would've spent at gas pumps in the past six months.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Matt Hoppes
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50
miles of range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors
aren’t efficient at high speeds.
On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For that police chase article, the department actually updated
and said the car wasn't fully charged the night before from the
officer who used it last. He forgot to plug it in so the car
never started the shift with a full charge. Not the Teslas fault.
https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-cruiser-runs-out-battery-chase-user-error/
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 AM Darin Steffl
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Matt,
You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally
false. Mpg gets worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps
and higher loads as well.
In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda
accord in the winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling
behind our chevy, we get about 10mpg compared to our 19mpg
without it.
I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the
same things that affect battery range.
Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of
most peoples daily miles. I can day our work vans definitely
don't drive more than the 300 to 500 mile range the truck
will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with normal weather and in
the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care of my
daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in
north Dakota. It's on their to do list.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck.
This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles
and an electric
truck:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html
“We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left
on the charge,
but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation,
going over 110
miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down
faster,” Ms. Bosques
said.
The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as
soon as he started
the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call
off the chase.
Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go,
and you start up
a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and
suddenly get
stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the
load of
pulling up the hill.
Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the
same no matter what.
Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and
usage.
On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I
always have 200 miles on the tank. At the end of a full
day of driving yes it needs to be charged. Local police
departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a
different mindset. No maintenance and a truck good for a
half million miles with no fuel costs is pretty
attractive to me (I charge with solar).
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