I think most people buy the standard PTP820S and PtP820C, not the high power version, so I wouldn’t focus on the price of the HP version unless you think you really need that.
Cambium PTP820S/C is rebranded Ceragon IP20, and I assume at some point Cambium will be selling a PTP850 based on the IP50. It looks like they only have the E band PTP850E right now. Will probably be a fancier radio at an even fancier price. One feature it should bring is 10 Gig on fiber without external LAG. Right now I view that as a feature deficiency against Aviat. A couple other comments about Cambium licensed radios. Make sure you account for the price of all the keys you may need. Ask your Cambium rep if you can get a discount, especially if you intend to buy multiple links. They may have promos or be able to give you special pricing on the HW, the keys, or both. Does no good to badger your distributor for special pricing, it has to come from your Cambium regional sales rep. If you don’t know that person, make their acquaintance. One final thing – test all radios on the bench as soon as you receive them, even if they won’t be deployed for a few weeks or maybe are spares. At least run the internal RF loopback test. Better yet, bench test them as High/Low pairs, with several reams of paper in between or bouncing off the ceiling. It will be a lot easier to get any DOA or early failure radios replaced if you can just return them as DOA, rather than sending them in for repair under warranty later. Repair turnaround time is unspectacular. https://www.ceragon.com/blog/introducing-the-ip-50-platform-disaggregated-wireless-backhaul From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 4:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AF-11x licensed links Well, if we're talking about the high power model of the PTP820, I don't think there are a lot of other radios that can hit that kind of power levels, and if there are, they probably aren't any cheaper. For the lower end models, most of the brands that I priced were within a few thousand of each other for a full blown XPIC link that'll do around 1.2gbps. I'd say the main advantage of Cambium is that you know what you're getting. Some of the newer options like Bridgewave don't have much of a proven track record, at this point. Aviat is a bit different, since they took the approach of being more of a self-service, direct sale model to get the price down. One of the big advantages that Bridgewave has (and I think Aviat has the same capability), is that you can run two 80mhz channels on a single transceiver radio, which means you can get the same capacity for much cheaper, but that depends on being able to license two (I think adjacent) channels in the same polarity, so I'm not sure how realistic that is... but if the channels are available, you can get a ~1.2gbps link for under $10k. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jason McKemie <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Ouch, what is the selling point of these with companies like Aviat offering much better deals? On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: You're closer to $25k once you're all in with that one, including license keys and the whole BOM. It'll do 1.2gbps though. -Adam On 1/8/2020 12:33 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yes, PTP820 can do 80mhz, but they're not cheap... especially the high power version. I don't remember exactly what I was quoted off hand, but you're probably going to be looking at $15-20k, for a complete link with XPIC and so forth. You could probably do Bridgewave Navigator or Aviat quite a bit cheaper. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:13 AM Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: can PTP820 do 80mhz channel? maybe its just better to swap out with Cambium, how much is a cambium PTP820 link costing these days? High Power version? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:03 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: There's also the problem that (as far as I know) there's no practical way to run two AF11 radios on a single dish... which means that it would end up costing more, and being overall less practical than just buying radios that support 80mhz channels. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:55 AM Seth Mattinen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: On 1/8/20 8:36 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in 56mhz channel > width can u just put a 2nd link up and split them up to the two 40mhz? No, that's not allowed. You need to license two 40MHz channels. -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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