Probably. and I suppose the reason for not supporting both, like the 1000
was cost.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:18 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> With the 3000L at 29V you can power it from an SM with an Aux port.  I'm
> guessing that's the underlying reason.
>
>
> On 1/23/2020 4:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> That must've been an early spec sheet... it also say 802.3at compliant,
> which is also not so... but both of those things are true for the 3000.
>
> Yeah, 24v is nice sometimes, but it would've been a lot nicer if it just
> worked on 22-56v, like the ePMP 1000. It's also annoying that the 3000 is
> 48v only, and the 3000L is 24v only, which makes it more complicated if you
> put up a 3000L and need to upgrade to a full 3000 later on... or if you
> want to change a 1000 that's running on 48v for a 3000L.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:33 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think I would have noticed it.....but I'll look at it tomorrow when I
>> get to the office.  I will send a pic as proof of the existence or
>> nonexistence of an SFP on the actual 3000L.  Currently it is Schrodinger's
>> SFP.
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2020 9:18 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> Where?  It says it has a 100/1000BaseT ethernet interface:
>>
>>
>> https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SS_ePMP_3000L_11182019.pdf
>>
>>
>> Erm - it also says it only accepts 29V PoE.  The ePMP 3000 (non-L)
>> supports 56V.  Did they really make the ePMP3kL only support 24-29V?  If
>> so, that is pretty dumb.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:13 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Spec sheet says 3000L has an sfp.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 3000 has an SFP, the 3000L does not.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:54 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It’s got an sfp in it
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:57 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Copper.  3000L doesn't have fiber.
>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 4:55 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you seeing Ethernet problems with fiber connections as well, or
>>>>>> just the copper?  We put up an EPMP 3000 early last year.  It had 
>>>>>> Ethernet
>>>>>> problems for about the first 3 or 4 weeks of putting it up, but has 
>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>> fine since then.  This was on Copper connection.  I was just having
>>>>>> Ethernet problems in general, 1g, 100m, 10m.  It would instantly 
>>>>>> negotiate
>>>>>> the speed, but have lots of packet loss.  I attributed it to corrosion on
>>>>>> the Cat5 pins that summer temperature fluctuations cleared up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 2:45 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was 1 link at 0.9 mile on a +30 EIRP DFS band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a test.  Test failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 3:41 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technically you wouldn't see any performance gains over a 2000 unless
>>>>>> you're hitting 256qam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the distance of the links?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No but Chris and I had a theory it was hot heat related... that
>>>>>>> kills
>>>>>>> that theory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/22/20 1:17 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>> > Binghamton, NY just north of you.  Usually in the 30's this time
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> > year, but it's been more like in the teens for several days.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Did you see a temperature correlation?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 1/22/2020 12:49 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>>> >> I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had
>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>> >> but issues with them since trying to deploy... including multiple
>>>>>>> >> instances at multiple sites with the inability to get Gig to
>>>>>>> link...
>>>>>>> >> but at the office it's fine... swap to a Ubiquiti AC radio and
>>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>> >> Gig on the tower.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity what temperature are you at wherever you are
>>>>>>> right now?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 1/22/20 12:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> On the first unit we tried yeah.  GigE worked in the office, but
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> >>> the tower it would only run at 100BaseT.  Our guys fought with
>>>>>>> it for
>>>>>>> >>> a couple of days. Brought it back to the office and it did a gig
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> >>> the office no problem.  I assume it's related to the cable
>>>>>>> length,
>>>>>>> >>> but maybe some other factor matters.  The switch at the tower
>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>> >>> Mikrotik CRS 2xx of some type.  Not sure if that matters.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> In any case, the second unit we plugged in at the tower went
>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>> >>> a gig no problem.....except that one died today after being in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>> air for 4 days.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Maybe I just rolled snake eyes or something, but it has me
>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>> >>> about reliability.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> The price and feature set is right so I had big plans for these.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> >>> probably won't try them again unless something changes.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> -Adam
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 1/22/2020 12:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> WAIT WAIT WAIT.... You ALSO are having issues linking at
>>>>>>> Gigabit?
>>>>>>> >>>> That's interesting, because myself and someone else are also
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> >>>> this issue and Cambium has sworn until they are blue in the
>>>>>>> face
>>>>>>> >>>> there is no issue.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 1/22/20 11:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>> So I tried an ePMP 3000L.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Real world performance is ultimately about the same as ePMP
>>>>>>> 2000.
>>>>>>> >>>>> QoS doesn't work properly.  SM was re registering with a
>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>> >>>>> minimal amount of noise.  I had 27 DL SNR and 17 UL SNR on a
>>>>>>> DFS
>>>>>>> >>>>> band......it's not going to get a lot better than that where I
>>>>>>> am.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Not in real life anyway.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> First AP wouldn't link at 1Gig on a long cable (but would on a
>>>>>>> >>>>> short cable).  Tried a second AP and that one worked at 1Gig,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> >>>>> then died 4 days later.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I got a lot of mileage out of the ePMP 2000 and the PMP450,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> >>>>> this new product does not currently impress.   It's sort of a
>>>>>>> >>>>> little bit shitty in fact.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Maybe they'll bake out some of the issues later.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
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