Can you imagine doing coding back in these days:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/a-deep-dive-into-the-apollo-guidance-computer-and-the-hack-that-saved-apollo-14/

Talk about both time and hardware constraints, oh and people die if you screw 
up.  I wonder what their effective cost per hour (or line of code) was.


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From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat

When I was a wee lad working at my first real engineering job in nuclear power, 
my boss had me sit down and figure out what my actual self-cost was as my very 
first job for him.   I came up with a number like $22/hour.  He then showed me 
what my actual overhead number was, and it came out to like $58 for the company 
and he told me that the company would be billing me out at over $100.  I was 
astonished.   So it's an exercise I still do.   Now I am at about $95 all up 
cost.   Much of the work I do is at a loss against that, but I make it up in 
bulk, LOL. But the time value of money is more like $450 right now.   The hours 
left in life are getting shorter, bank assets are getting longer. Spend more 
time on fun than work.

On 1/31/20 8:41 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> I think they have integration with common CRM's like Sonar.
>
> You sound exactly like I sounded 15 years ago.  The more stuff I have 
> to deal with every day, the more I'm ok with outsourcing some of my 
> troubles to someone else.
>
> I just paid a guy $800 to replace an exhaust inducer in my furnace.  I 
> know that inducer is $99 and goes in with 4 screws and a hose clamp, 
> but it's more worth my time to let someone else take care of it so I 
> can do something else.  Same goes for Preseem vs the $300 Linux box.
>
> I'm not knocking your method.  There's a point in the business cycle 
> where there's more time than there is cash, and it will make sense to 
> do some more DIY things.  I'm just saying the Preseem thing has value 
> too.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 1/31/2020 11:34 AM, Dev wrote:
>> I’m getting spammed like every day with the Preseem guys selling what 
>> seem like expensive hacks of fq_codel to reduce bufferbloat. Is there 
>> anything else interesting about their technology besides deploying 
>> open source implementation of fq_codel or CAKE on commodity hardware, 
>> which we already do to great effect on a $300 single board Linux box 
>> with a few ports? I guess they have a pretty dashboard, anyhing other 
>> than that?
>


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