Just wondering if my asterisk can act as a sip client so I can use my new digital voice prouduct instead of paying them for trunks. The answer is probably yes but will be limited on concurrent sessions.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have no idea how Xmission does their stuff... but extension to extension > dialing, paging (which actually has nothing to do with the PBX... should be > multicast and never leave your LAN), conference bridges, IVR's, hunt groups, > etc. are all standard features as part of a domain. Maybe they charge extra > for all of this stuff? > > CallerID on the seat is going to be controlled by their switch not your PBX > so you are going to have to talk to them about that. For the SIP trunk... it > all depends on how they provision those (for instance, using an SBC instead > of Netsapiens). > > SIP trunking is more expensive than VoIP lines because utilization is higher. > That means your typing up my switch more and using more minutes. I have no > idea how Xmission "unlimited" is worded nor what your utilization looks > like... but you may run afoul of it. > > Unless Xmission has some out of wack SIP trunk pricing... I doubt the > difference is that big. > > I can't help much because now I know the details I know what you want to > accomplish wouldn't work on my setup. Since you are my reseller I'd probably > just give you a special price on the trunk and move on... but the way we have > things configured (and they should too) wouldn't let it happen. > > > Daniel White > Co-Founder > phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 > direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 >> [email protected] September 23, 2020 at 15:54 >> I have been running a pbx for years. We need extension to extension >> calling, paging, conf all the stuff you expect in a business. Multiple >> calls on the same line outgoing, all the conventional pbx features. Aastra >> phones etc. >> >> Costs us nothing to run asterisk. Just have to pay for sip trunking. Voip >> lines are cheaper. >> >> From: Daniel White >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:49 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question >> >> Xmission is using Netsapiens like Lewis and I :-) >> >> I'm not sure why you are gung-ho to run a PBX for your shop if you are >> buying services from them. What little you save in money you lose in >> redundancy, ease of configuration, etc. etc. >> >> Your not really running your own product if you are not replicating what you >> are selling to your business customers. >> >> If you bought a seat from me, on my Netsapiens platform, and tried to change >> the Caller ID it wouldn't work. On a SIP trunk, it passes through. On the >> flip side, so long as you could show me that you own a TN (even if it not on >> my service) I would provision Caller ID to reflect that number. >> >> I've proactively implemented policies we will have to have for >> STIR/SHAKEN... no sense dealing with the mess when it becomes law. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> Daniel White September 23, 2020 at 15:49 >> Xmission is using Netsapiens like Lewis and I :-) >> >> I'm not sure why you are gung-ho to run a PBX for your shop if you are >> buying services from them. What little you save in money you lose in >> redundancy, ease of configuration, etc. etc. >> >> Your not really running your own product if you are not replicating what you >> are selling to your business customers. >> >> If you bought a seat from me, on my Netsapiens platform, and tried to change >> the Caller ID it wouldn't work. On a SIP trunk, it passes through. On the >> flip side, so long as you could show me that you own a TN (even if it not on >> my service) I would provision Caller ID to reflect that number. >> >> I've proactively implemented policies we will have to have for >> STIR/SHAKEN... no sense dealing with the mess when it becomes law. >> >> [email protected] September 23, 2020 at 15:34 >> We are mixing apples and oranges in this tread. >> I am (going to be) reselling VOIP from Xmission in SLC. >> They have been around since the beginning of the internet. I presume >> whatever they are using is carrier class. >> >> I am the one running asterisk for my shop. I would like to start to use my >> own product, the Xmission VoIP rather than paying much more for SIP trunks >> from Xmission. >> >> From: Daniel White >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:30 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question >> >> Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is doing >> on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not >> anywhere close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch. >> >> Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more >> predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... they >> lose not you. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> Daniel White September 23, 2020 at 15:30 >> Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is doing >> on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not >> anywhere close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch. >> >> Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more >> predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... they >> lose not you. >> >> TJ Trout September 23, 2020 at 14:35 >> with any volume you want to go to a per minute/per item rate, then you reap >> the profits instead of the guy offering you $8 flat rate... >> >> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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