Yes you can use asterisk as a client, as stated before by a few. On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:50 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just wondering if my asterisk can act as a sip client so I can use my new > digital voice prouduct instead of paying them for trunks. The answer is > probably yes but will be limited on concurrent sessions. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have no idea how Xmission does their stuff... but extension to extension > dialing, paging (which actually has nothing to do with the PBX... should be > multicast and never leave your LAN), conference bridges, IVR's, hunt > groups, etc. are all standard features as part of a domain. Maybe they > charge extra for all of this stuff? > > CallerID on the seat is going to be controlled by their switch not your > PBX so you are going to have to talk to them about that. For the SIP > trunk... it all depends on how they provision those (for instance, using an > SBC instead of Netsapiens). > > SIP trunking is more expensive than VoIP lines because utilization is > higher. That means your typing up my switch more and using more minutes. > I have no idea how Xmission "unlimited" is worded nor what your utilization > looks like... but you may run afoul of it. > > Unless Xmission has some out of wack SIP trunk pricing... I doubt the > difference is that big. > > I can't help much because now I know the details I know what you want to > accomplish wouldn't work on my setup. Since you are my reseller I'd > probably just give you a special price on the trunk and move on... but the > way we have things configured (and they should too) wouldn't let it happen. > > [image: photograph] > Daniel White > Co-Founder > phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 > direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 > > [email protected] > September 23, 2020 at 15:54 > I have been running a pbx for years. We need extension to extension > calling, paging, conf all the stuff you expect in a business. Multiple > calls on the same line outgoing, all the conventional pbx features. Aastra > phones etc. > > Costs us nothing to run asterisk. Just have to pay for sip trunking. > Voip lines are cheaper. > > *From:* Daniel White > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:49 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question > > Xmission is using Netsapiens like Lewis and I :-) > > I'm not sure why you are gung-ho to run a PBX for your shop if you are > buying services from them. What little you save in money you lose in > redundancy, ease of configuration, etc. etc. > > Your not really running your own product if you are not replicating what > you are selling to your business customers. > > If you bought a seat from me, on my Netsapiens platform, and tried to > change the Caller ID it wouldn't work. On a SIP trunk, it passes through. > On the flip side, so long as you could show me that you own a TN (even if > it not on my service) I would provision Caller ID to reflect that number. > > I've proactively implemented policies we will have to have for > STIR/SHAKEN... no sense dealing with the mess when it becomes law. > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > Daniel White <[email protected]> > September 23, 2020 at 15:49 > Xmission is using Netsapiens like Lewis and I :-) > > I'm not sure why you are gung-ho to run a PBX for your shop if you are > buying services from them. What little you save in money you lose in > redundancy, ease of configuration, etc. etc. > > Your not really running your own product if you are not replicating what > you are selling to your business customers. > > If you bought a seat from me, on my Netsapiens platform, and tried to > change the Caller ID it wouldn't work. On a SIP trunk, it passes through. > On the flip side, so long as you could show me that you own a TN (even if > it not on my service) I would provision Caller ID to reflect that number. > > I've proactively implemented policies we will have to have for > STIR/SHAKEN... no sense dealing with the mess when it becomes law. > > [email protected] > September 23, 2020 at 15:34 > We are mixing apples and oranges in this tread. > I am (going to be) reselling VOIP from Xmission in SLC. > They have been around since the beginning of the internet. I presume > whatever they are using is carrier class. > > I am the one running asterisk for my shop. I would like to start to use > my own product, the Xmission VoIP rather than paying much more for SIP > trunks from Xmission. > > *From:* Daniel White > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:30 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question > > Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is > doing on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not > anywhere close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch. > > Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more > predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... > they lose not you. > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > Daniel White <[email protected]> > September 23, 2020 at 15:30 > Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is > doing on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not > anywhere close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch. > > Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more > predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... > they lose not you. > > TJ Trout <[email protected]> > September 23, 2020 at 14:35 > with any volume you want to go to a per minute/per item rate, then you > reap the profits instead of the guy offering you $8 flat rate... > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell
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