We are mixing apples and oranges in this tread.  
I am (going to be) reselling VOIP from Xmission in SLC.  
They have been around since the beginning of the internet.  I presume whatever 
they are using is carrier class.

I am the one running asterisk for my shop.  I would like to start to use my own 
product, the Xmission VoIP rather than paying much more for SIP trunks from 
Xmission.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question

Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is doing on 
top of just the pure minutes.  Also, any free PBX solution is not anywhere 
close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch.

Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more 
predictable.  And if you have a user that uses more than the average... they 
lose not you.


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  TJ TroutSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:35
  with any volume you want to go to a per minute/per item rate, then you reap 
the profits instead of the guy offering you $8 flat rate...




  [email protected] 23, 2020 at 14:31
  With LNP and direct PSAP and unlimited LD etc?

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:27 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question

  I would have to assume doing with a national wholesale voip provider would be 
a fraction of the cost compared to a $8 flat rate per line.


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  TJ TroutSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:27
  I would have to assume doing with a national wholesale voip provider would be 
a fraction of the cost compared to a $8 flat rate per line.




  Lewis BergmanSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:20
  Just as a clarification, FusionPBX is freeswitch not asterisk.




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  Daniel WhiteSeptember 23, 2020 at 13:37
  Having a direct connection for a SIP trunk is easy.  Just put an Adtran 904e 
or something else into the mix.  For LNP you don't need to have the switch 
on-net... just a device in the exchange for portability and a T-1 or something 
else.

  To answer your question... CallerID manipulation is easy right now.  In 9ish 
months once STIR/SHAKEN is a thing... you may run into issues getting calls 
signed with a TN for CallerID that isn't on that providers service.  

  So yes... to answer your question it is easy to do on an Asterisk based 
system (FreePBX or FusionPBX for instance) but someone like Lewis and I could 
save you a lot of trouble for certain.  That and it is easy today... but is 
going to be a lot more complicated next year.






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