Stay safe guys. We have my cousins husband die from it two weeks ago...33 years old . My wife wears N95 masks, gloves, face shields , goggles, full ppe garb at work everyday....she changes out in our back porch, including shoes...we spray them with Lysol...showers as soon as she comes inside home.. She has diabetes... I am about to hit 65 in November...taking no chances
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 3:37 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > We spent the last week at Lake Tahoe. Almost everywhere we went mask > wearing was near 100%, until Friday, we went to a restaurant for lunch. > They had set up booths outdoors with plexiglass dividers and plenty of > distance. all the employees wore masks; they even provided a virtual menu > via a QR Code that was on a card on the table (so far so good). > > When it came time to leave, my partner had to visit the restroom. She had > to walk past the bar, where she said they were crowded, shoulder to > shoulder, and zero masks. As Tony Fauci commented "Nothing good is going to > come from that." > > I'm a 70-year-old guy, and while I think I'm in pretty good shape, I do > not have ready access to any monoclonal antibodies, nor do I expect to in > the next 6 months. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 10/26/2020 2:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > We are on a curfew watch and stay at home order.... fucking selfish people > out at bars and restaurants, home parties... > My son was in New Zealand for three months... they had their shit together. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM Matt Hoppes < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You >> said that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved >> everyone who can remote. >> >> I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now look at >> El Paso. This is not going away after the election. >> >> On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said that >> the natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual seasons, with this >> one in particular being predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have >> treatments now that are effective, we quit killing people with ventilators >> the way were were in the beginning, healthcare isnt overwhelmed and theres >> no shortage of PPE. We only have 8 days until reporting on this changes to >> be less terrifying. >> >> Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and innoculated, 3 months >> permanent, no one knows if this is different thatn 99 percent of other >> viruses. but of the well over 30 million people who were verified positive >> via testing and have since recovered, less than 20 globally have been >> reinfected, so odds are the vast majority are immune. >> >> Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all positions that >> can be remote to remote. techs dont go any further than the garage if they >> dont have to. Its techs choice to mask up and glove up, and as long as they >> choose to mask up and glove up, it will continue to be there choice. This >> is only applicable to interiors, theyre not required to mask outside, thats >> simply ignorant to require and its not "following the science" . ut the >> tech can choose to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a >> condom all day, its none of our concern. >> >> Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it on the >> percentage of total tests that are positive, its gotten colder, so people >> arent getting tested on a whim and we are back to primarily people with >> risk factors getting tested, the positivity rate went up as would be >> expected, but not as high as anticipated. >> >> If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations (luckily I >> have ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on media reports and >> politically charged public health departments, i am privy to internal >> census reports in healthcare) then we will look toward lower contact >> solutions, and no contact if our coverage area sees a legitimate surge. >> >> We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was infected, we >> cancelled him for his quarantine period. We dont have in person company >> meetings. When we are together on project work we dont ride in the same >> vehicle, we just dont take any unnecessary risk, but we also dont let risk >> avoidance unnecessarily impact operations. >> >> I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a hospital, we >> are exposed constantly. (the low incidence of healthcare transmission is an >> oddity that after the politics of this thing are over I hope they do some >> deep diving into, its either going to boil down to we still dont actually >> know how its primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high incidence >> of low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated without actually >> catching it, similar to how some allergies can be beaten through very low >> dose exposures to the allergen, will be interesting research when the >> politics of it are over) >> >> Every single "look at this country, look at that country" has turned out >> to be wrong on both sides of the argument, even WHO says lockdowns are the >> wrong solution now. >> >> Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a bunch of people >> in prison, even in this industry there will probably be some prison >> sentences handed out, the money came with requirements, it wasnt just free >> cash to grow a company. >> >> >> I can tell you there is something going around thats causing chest >> xrays to look exactly like covid damage, but no testing method is >> identifying the presence of covid or history of its presence, thats >> concerning, keep that in mind when relaxing policies. Its flu season, and >> given the disruption of interaction, this years flu vaccine is not going to >> very effective, its worth keeping covid policies in place regardless to not >> have staff out with a wild flu. >> >> And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8 days of hell, >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people just want to >>> fucking party... >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we can say is “at >>>> least we’re not Wisconsin”. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to live in Maine, >>>> where “social distancing” was already the norm. (bike photo was actually >>>> from a ride a month ago up to the Quebec border) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel and stuff because two >>>> electricians would wear masks...I wasn't there , I would have made them >>>> step outside ...our boss complained to water utilities because we are on a >>>> schedule with several people. >>>> >>>> The control room is small. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are doing normal installs for now. Watching our local county info in >>>> internal tracking systems I developed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things severely spike this >>>> winter we will shut down installs again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At this point we are not masking nor requiring customers to wear masks >>>> - but we do ask customers to stay 10feet away from techs. This point will >>>> be driven home even more as we go into the winter months. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse not better, and despite what >>>> anybody says the end is not just around the corner. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I remember at the beginning some WISPs were not sending techs inside >>>> customer homes, maybe pushing a cable through the wall and having the >>>> customer plug in the POE and router. Is anybody still declining to do >>>> inside work? Installs, repairs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge” not to disconnect customers >>>> for nonpayment during the pandemic. How many are still doing that, and >>>> assuming things won’t be back to “normal” until well into 2021 or even >>>> 2022, how long do you plan to continue? Are you taking any additional >>>> steps, like downgrading their speed or declining to do upgrades, or >>>> requiring proof of hardship? I know this wasn’t mandatory, but if we did >>>> it voluntarily, should there be a time limit? And if at that point they >>>> are 6-12 months behind, do we write that off rather than expecting they >>>> will catch up? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It’s also interesting I see on cable company forums issues about mask >>>> refusal, both by techs and customers, and even of customers who have Covid >>>> but still want their Internet fixed. I hesitate to bring this up because >>>> it has become a political or “freedom” issue in a way that seatbelts or >>>> smoking or wearing a yellow vest at a grain elevator or even picking up >>>> after your dog isn’t, and I’m tired of being caught in the middle. But >>>> take the extreme case of a customer who recently tested positive or the >>>> tech gets there and strongly suspects someone in the house is contagious, >>>> is this really happening, and what is your response? 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