You mean this? Lol

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Do you all want all the lists to be free?



If so, I'll close up PART-15.ORG and you all can do whatever you want.



I'm sick of all this B.S. If you don't want to support PART-15.ORG then

don't and GO AWAY. Start your own damn lists somewhere else because

PART-15.ORG will just fade away which appears to be what you guys want and



I

have no problem with that idea.



And you know what Chuck, if people like Charles Wu would ever pay his

bills/debts that he owes PART-15.ORG maybe he could get back on the lists.

As far as the others go, the hell with them as far as I'm concerned. They

don't want to support PART-15.ORG so why the hell should I let them in for

free? B.S. I'm fed up folks.



Michael


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

Yup

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 7:57 AM Bill Prince 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Inside joke.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/4/2020 5:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

What was the deal with Bullit anyway?  Some sort of control issues?
On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


From: Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Its all good Ken šŸ˜Š

Didnā€™t mean to sound defensive LOL.

But if I get any more crap, I QUIT  hahahah

(only us ā€œlong-timesā€ will get that reference)

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com><mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

I didnā€™t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.

20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working 
aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a bunch 
of other things.  Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 10 tech 
phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3.  We are well aware of future 
proofing and are doing that wherever possible.  I think we have a few years at 
least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill towers.  We 
overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds.  Licensed BH links wherever 
possible.   If I had a local company that could provide 50Mbit plans for less 
than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long.  Not everyone would of course.  
ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage area, and we have lost 4 
customers in 2 years to it.

But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry ever 
comes back.

They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!

Iā€™m good šŸ˜Š


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.  On 
the one hand, itā€™s magic not science.  On the other hand, Elon Musk and 
T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded fiber.

I think itā€™s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running chainsaws, 
while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty.  Very difficult, 
yet customers would rather be doing something else.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Theodolite will.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

LOL, definitely not in LOS territory.  90% of our rural stuff wonā€™t see the 
towers.

We use tower coverage as well, but it doesnā€™t show the angle (degrees) to the 
tower.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add the 
estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones.  That ticket 
could always be pulled up.

As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so once 
you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of app.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall 
<pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We have thatā€¦ looking for more of a compass time app that will point him to a 
tower, based on stored LAT / LONG

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Google Earth

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Anyone have a favorite app??  (android or iPhone) for putting in the LAT/LONG 
of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to a tower from 
their location.

Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..

Thanks!

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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