I think I came rooting around right after this cause dslreports was just
making me angry. A bunch of crotchety old BBS type operators who had all
the answers I needed to get Motorola gear trucking.

Fools should have declined that subscription request

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 1:38 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's how I came to create my email address (part15 Skyline Broadband
> Service). In my mind this place is still part 15, even though we manage to
> cover quite a range of topics.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 12/4/2020 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly
> posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing.  He
> was pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each
> list and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if
> they were not a subscriber to both lists or something like that.
>
> In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff.  And
> then he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line.
> Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down.  I was
> getting emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list
> serv, put all the Motorola people on it and away we go.
>
> In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but
> by then ... the barn door had been left open.
>
> I am sure he never forgave me.  But we did it out of a want to keep in
> contact rather than malice.  We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT.  As it
> turns out he was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental.
>
> Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
>
>
> What was the deal with Bullit anyway?  Some sort of control issues?
>
> On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
>
> Its all good Ken 😊
>
> Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL.
>
> But if I get any more crap, I QUIT  hahahah
>
> (only us “long-times” will get that reference)
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.
>
> 20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working
> aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a
> bunch of other things.  Network running like a well-oiled machine, less
> than 10 tech phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3.  We are well
> aware of future proofing and are doing that wherever possible.  I think we
> have a few years at least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and
> smaller fill towers.  We overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds.
> Licensed BH links wherever possible.   If I had a local company that could
> provide 50Mbit plans for less than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long.
> Not everyone would of course.  ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our
> coverage area, and we have lost 4 customers in 2 years to it.
>
> But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry
> ever comes back.
>
> They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!
>
> I’m good 😊
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.
> On the one hand, it’s magic not science.  On the other hand, Elon Musk and
> T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded
> fiber.
>
> I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running
> chainsaws, while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty.
> Very difficult, yet customers would rather be doing something else.
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> Theodolite will.
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> LOL, definitely not in LOS territory.  90% of our rural stuff won’t see
> the towers.
>
> We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to
> the tower.
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll
> add the estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones.
> That ticket could always be pulled up.
>
> As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so
> once you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of
> app.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him
> to a tower, based on stored LAT / LONG
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> Google Earth
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>
> Anyone have a favorite app??  (android or iPhone) for putting in the
> LAT/LONG of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to
> a tower from their location.
>
> Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..
>
> Thanks!
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
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>
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