Nope, we were just trying to decide between Canopy and Proxim at that time.
Went to WISPCON probably the next year. Michael got into a pissing contest
with the ISPCON folks. There was a lawsuit. Don’t recall details. I know
that WISPA got started due to a less than positive interaction between Michael
and some folks. At least that is what I remember Mac telling me once upon a
time in Las Vegas.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
Remember WISPCON? I think I attended WISPCON II in something like 2002. There
was some startup called Motorola with a product called Canopy. Also a
competitor called Trango. I probably still have a binder from the show in a
bookcase somewhere. Not sure if Wireless Beehive existed yet.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:38 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
That's how I came to create my email address (part15 Skyline Broadband
Service). In my mind this place is still part 15, even though we manage to
cover quite a range of topics.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/4/2020 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly
posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing. He was
pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each list
and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if they were
not a subscriber to both lists or something like that.
In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff. And
then he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line.
Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down. I was
getting emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list
serv, put all the Motorola people on it and away we go.
In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but by
then ... the barn door had been left open.
I am sure he never forgave me. But we did it out of a want to keep in
contact rather than malice. We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT. As it turns
out he was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental.
Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
What was the deal with Bullit anyway? Some sort of control issues?
On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
Its all good Ken 😊
Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL.
But if I get any more crap, I QUIT hahahah
(only us “long-times” will get that reference)
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.
20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working
aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a bunch
of other things. Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 10 tech
phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3. We are well aware of future
proofing and are doing that wherever possible. I think we have a few years at
least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill towers. We
overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds. Licensed BH links wherever
possible. If I had a local company that could provide 50Mbit plans for less
than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long. Not everyone would of course.
ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage area, and we have lost 4
customers in 2 years to it.
But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry
ever comes back.
They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!
I’m good 😊
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.
On the one hand, it’s magic not science. On the other hand, Elon Musk and
T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded fiber.
I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running
chainsaws, while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty. Very
difficult, yet customers would rather be doing something else.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
Theodolite will.
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
LOL, definitely not in LOS territory. 90% of our rural stuff won’t see the
towers.
We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to
the tower.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add
the estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones. That ticket
could always be pulled up.
As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so
once you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of app.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him
to a tower, based on stored LAT / LONG
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
Google Earth
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
Anyone have a favorite app?? (android or iPhone) for putting in the
LAT/LONG of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to a
tower from their location.
Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..
Thanks!
Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
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