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On Friday, January 8, 2021, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> Where is it free? I only see the annual per socket licensing
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 5:55 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Proxomox is opensource and free if you don’t want the enterprise repo.
>>
>> Although, I do pay for the licenses on mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Bouse
>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>> 979-985-5912
>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2021 4:02 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>>
>>
>> wow, 20% VAT?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:48 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Proxmox has both of these featues.   Plus with a ceph backend storage
>> migration should become less of an issue as you effectively mirror drives
>> across cluster nodes.
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>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 2:33 PM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> HA only.. no live migrations.  No live storage migrations.  Last I
>> checked it didn't support it.
>>
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>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 12:40:45 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
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>>
>> Like?
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>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 11:39:21 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>> You can use it for 100000 servers.  But it still won't do certain things
>> that make managing all of them easy.
>>
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>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 11:53:05 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>>
>>
>> Strange.
>>
>> Friends of mine have used Proxmox in installations where there were many,
>> many racks full of servers.
>>
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
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>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 10:46:26 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>> Here is the alternative I was looking at.  Since Xen didn't do
>> paravirtual before but it does now.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://xcp-ng.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> Proxmox too many things its missing to list here.  Its great for basic
>> usage 2-3 servers definitely.  I'd use it in a heartbeat if I was a small
>> operation.
>>
>>
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>>
>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY *
>>
>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON
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>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 10:49:39 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>>
>>
>> What features is Proxmox missing that vSphere has (and you need\use)?
>>
>> Proxmox also has a backup server now, though I haven't really looked at
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 9:47:51 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>> Oh the combo.. couldn't help you there :)  Proxmox looks cool.. but still
>> doesn't have the features Vmware does.  But I hear now there is some pretty
>> good xen material out there now.  It has advanced much further than it used
>> to be.  Trying to find the link but the manager you need to pay for but its
>> a fraction of Vmware.
>>
>>
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>>
>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY *
>>
>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/158+Erie+St.+N+%7C+Leamington+ON?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> E: [email protected] <[email protected]> | P: 519-737-9283 W:
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 2:16:29 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>>
>>
>>
>> Ive been running vmware and veeam forever, i love it, but we are getting
>> priced out of continuing to use it. upgrading either is always a cumbersome
>> task.
>>
>> Having been using what is probably the simplest virtualization/backup
>> combo out there I'm guessing anything we move to will have a massive
>> learning curve for me,
>>
>>
>>
>> What combos are out there that dont break the bank and are reliable as
>> this?
>>
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