Where is it free? I only see the annual per socket licensing

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 5:55 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Proxomox is opensource and free if you don’t want the enterprise repo.
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> Although, I do pay for the licenses on mine.
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> Jim Bouse
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2021 4:02 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> wow, 20% VAT?
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:48 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Proxmox has both of these featues.   Plus with a ceph backend storage
> migration should become less of an issue as you effectively mirror drives
> across cluster nodes.
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 2:33 PM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> wrote:
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> HA only.. no live migrations.  No live storage migrations.  Last I checked
> it didn't support it.
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 12:40:45 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> Like?
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> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 11:39:21 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> You can use it for 100000 servers.  But it still won't do certain things
> that make managing all of them easy.
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 11:53:05 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> Strange.
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> Friends of mine have used Proxmox in installations where there were many,
> many racks full of servers.
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> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 10:46:26 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> Here is the alternative I was looking at.  Since Xen didn't do paravirtual
> before but it does now.
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> https://xcp-ng.org/
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> Proxmox too many things its missing to list here.  Its great for basic
> usage 2-3 servers definitely.  I'd use it in a heartbeat if I was a small
> operation.
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 10:49:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> What features is Proxmox missing that vSphere has (and you need\use)?
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> Proxmox also has a backup server now, though I haven't really looked at it.
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> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 9:47:51 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
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> Oh the combo.. couldn't help you there :)  Proxmox looks cool.. but still
> doesn't have the features Vmware does.  But I hear now there is some pretty
> good xen material out there now.  It has advanced much further than it used
> to be.  Trying to find the link but the manager you need to pay for but its
> a fraction of Vmware.
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 2:16:29 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
>
>
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> Ive been running vmware and veeam forever, i love it, but we are getting
> priced out of continuing to use it. upgrading either is always a cumbersome
> task.
>
> Having been using what is probably the simplest virtualization/backup
> combo out there I'm guessing anything we move to will have a massive
> learning curve for me,
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> What combos are out there that dont break the bank and are reliable as
> this?
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