It’s wise of them to have dropped 5GHz because it never really worked all that 
well.
The radios/antennas didn’t seem to be made for it and it ends up causing more 
issues than it solves IMO.


From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Wire Dish @ 1km

Seems strange to me that they dropped the 5GHz backup radio from the GBE Plus 
and the AF60LR.  All the other 60GHz radios have a 5GHz backup of some sort.
We have installed a number of the little 60GHz GBE radios and they seem solid 
for short links with easy aim.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think they claim their "Wave AI" feature is supposed to somehow magically 
make long links work better... but yeah, being able to use 66-70ghz behaves 
more like 70/80ghz than the lower 60ghz band, so you can do much longer 
distances... you still have the same problem with rain fade, but even on 
something like a 1 mile link that will work at 64-65ghz, it works a lot better, 
since you have more signal to work with.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Carl Peterson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Is that the only extra magic in the LR?  They claim 12KM vs 2KM.  I would never 
try 12 but I'm tempted to go for up to 3.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
At 1km it won't drop much, but it will still drop occasionally. Ubiquiti AF60LR 
will do a bit better than the other options, because it can use the higher 
channels.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:16 PM Dev 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during clear day 
says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton of bandwidth. It 
hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s really DUMPING rain. I 
think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the mid to high 50’s. Doesn’t 
seem to use the 5GHz backup much, but traffic drops off fast when you do. I 
have another link doing 1.3km, much worse in heavy rain, but very impressive 
throughput when it’s not raining, surprisingly.

> On Feb 19, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Steve Jones 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> We havent dealt with 60ghz other than as an outside contractor so ive never 
> looked at performance directly. At 1 km what kind of fade are we talking in a 
> normal rain shower, and in a downpour?
> We have had pretty good luck with af24 over the years but need more capacity, 
> the fade in 60ghz concerns me, and I never understood the 60 ghz ones with 
> 5ghz backup. its like a cruise ship having a backup canoe
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