The Mikrotiks are by far the easiest to align of any of the 60ghz stuff I've tried, and I think they're probably the most reliable too. I have a set of the new variant sitting here, and they look to be an improvement, but I haven't tried them yet. They would be my first choice for super short links.
I had high hopes for the Cambium 60ghz, but unfortunately it looks like they only support up to channel 4 (64.8ghz), which means they won't have significantly different range than the Mikrotiks, but if you need more than 1 gig, they're likely the best thing out there at the moment. On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 6:07 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > We ordered the newer variant of the wireless wire today, we will see how > it goes. We are waiting to see how the cambium product does and plan on > using the extensively for short short stuff, we have an odd number of banks > with remote drivethroughs very nearby. > > I'm jaded on ignitnet. One of those incidental ones we dealt with had > killed one of our POPs off and on, the operator had the apparent default > 5ghz backup enabled and it was misaligned so it would sporadically trash > 5ghz, noisy useless bastards that they are > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 4:31 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The 5ghz backup would have been pretty useless on longer links. The >> problem is that it has tiny antennas (8dbi, if I remember right)... so it >> really only worked for really short links anyway, and even then, it seemed >> kind of buggy. >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It’s wise of them to have dropped 5GHz because it never really worked >>> all that well. >>> >>> The radios/antennas didn’t seem to be made for it and it ends up causing >>> more issues than it solves IMO. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2021 2:50 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Wire Dish @ 1km >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems strange to me that they dropped the 5GHz backup radio from the GBE >>> Plus and the AF60LR. All the other 60GHz radios have a 5GHz backup of some >>> sort. >>> >>> We have installed a number of the little 60GHz GBE radios and they seem >>> solid for short links with easy aim. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think they claim their "Wave AI" feature is supposed to somehow >>> magically make long links work better... but yeah, being able to use >>> 66-70ghz behaves more like 70/80ghz than the lower 60ghz band, so you can >>> do much longer distances... you still have the same problem with rain fade, >>> but even on something like a 1 mile link that will work at 64-65ghz, it >>> works a lot better, since you have more signal to work with. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Carl Peterson < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Is that the only extra magic in the LR? They claim 12KM vs 2KM. I >>> would never try 12 but I'm tempted to go for up to 3. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> At 1km it won't drop much, but it will still drop occasionally. Ubiquiti >>> AF60LR will do a bit better than the other options, because it can use the >>> higher channels. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:16 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during >>> clear day says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton of >>> bandwidth. It hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s >>> really DUMPING rain. I think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the >>> mid to high 50’s. Doesn’t seem to use the 5GHz backup much, but traffic >>> drops off fast when you do. I have another link doing 1.3km, much worse in >>> heavy rain, but very impressive throughput when it’s not raining, >>> surprisingly. >>> >>> > On Feb 19, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > We havent dealt with 60ghz other than as an outside contractor so ive >>> never looked at performance directly. At 1 km what kind of fade are we >>> talking in a normal rain shower, and in a downpour? >>> > We have had pretty good luck with af24 over the years but need more >>> capacity, the fade in 60ghz concerns me, and I never understood the 60 ghz >>> ones with 5ghz backup. its like a cruise ship having a backup canoe >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl Peterson >>> >>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>> >>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>> >>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>> >>> (410) 637-3707 >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl Peterson >>> >>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>> >>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>> >>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>> >>> (410) 637-3707 >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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