Did you use 320? Are they as bad as those at seizing? If it's like that I dont care how good the gear is I wont buy another. I dont like staff having to use angle grinders in field.
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 3:45 PM Craig Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > Guessing when you say the new Mikrotik variant, you're talking about the > nRay. I just picked up a pair of those for a link of about 250 ft. One > issue I had with them is that the mount is all stainless steel hardware, > and about 10 minutes after slightly tightening everything up, I found all > the nuts were seized and I could no longer loosen it without breaking > bolts. Even the alignment adjuster screws have this issue. I noticed > everything was stainless before I started installing and should have just > waited until I could get some non-stainless nuts to replace the stainless > ones. But being the impatient idiot that I am, I decided I just wouldn't > tighten them down too much, and then I'd pick up new hardware the next time > I came back. Now, I'm looking at having to buy new mounts for both ends. > Why do manufacturers use all stainless hardware? When I owned my WISP, we > had this issue way back in the SmartBridge days (early 2000s). Seems like > manufacturers should know better. > > Craig > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 5:43 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Mikrotiks are by far the easiest to align of any of the 60ghz stuff >> I've tried, and I think they're probably the most reliable too. I have a >> set of the new variant sitting here, and they look to be an improvement, >> but I haven't tried them yet. They would be my first choice for super short >> links. >> >> I had high hopes for the Cambium 60ghz, but unfortunately it looks like >> they only support up to channel 4 (64.8ghz), which means they won't have >> significantly different range than the Mikrotiks, but if you need more than >> 1 gig, they're likely the best thing out there at the moment. >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 6:07 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> We ordered the newer variant of the wireless wire today, we will see how >>> it goes. We are waiting to see how the cambium product does and plan on >>> using the extensively for short short stuff, we have an odd number of banks >>> with remote drivethroughs very nearby. >>> >>> I'm jaded on ignitnet. One of those incidental ones we dealt with had >>> killed one of our POPs off and on, the operator had the apparent default >>> 5ghz backup enabled and it was misaligned so it would sporadically trash >>> 5ghz, noisy useless bastards that they are >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 4:31 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The 5ghz backup would have been pretty useless on longer links. The >>>> problem is that it has tiny antennas (8dbi, if I remember right)... so it >>>> really only worked for really short links anyway, and even then, it seemed >>>> kind of buggy. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It’s wise of them to have dropped 5GHz because it never really worked >>>>> all that well. >>>>> >>>>> The radios/antennas didn’t seem to be made for it and it ends up >>>>> causing more issues than it solves IMO. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Carl Peterson >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2021 2:50 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Wire Dish @ 1km >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Seems strange to me that they dropped the 5GHz backup radio from the >>>>> GBE Plus and the AF60LR. All the other 60GHz radios have a 5GHz backup of >>>>> some sort. >>>>> >>>>> We have installed a number of the little 60GHz GBE radios and they >>>>> seem solid for short links with easy aim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think they claim their "Wave AI" feature is supposed to somehow >>>>> magically make long links work better... but yeah, being able to use >>>>> 66-70ghz behaves more like 70/80ghz than the lower 60ghz band, so you can >>>>> do much longer distances... you still have the same problem with rain >>>>> fade, >>>>> but even on something like a 1 mile link that will work at 64-65ghz, it >>>>> works a lot better, since you have more signal to work with. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is that the only extra magic in the LR? They claim 12KM vs 2KM. I >>>>> would never try 12 but I'm tempted to go for up to 3. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> At 1km it won't drop much, but it will still drop occasionally. >>>>> Ubiquiti AF60LR will do a bit better than the other options, because it >>>>> can >>>>> use the higher channels. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:16 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during >>>>> clear day says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton >>>>> of >>>>> bandwidth. It hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s >>>>> really DUMPING rain. I think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the >>>>> mid to high 50’s. Doesn’t seem to use the 5GHz backup much, but traffic >>>>> drops off fast when you do. I have another link doing 1.3km, much worse in >>>>> heavy rain, but very impressive throughput when it’s not raining, >>>>> surprisingly. >>>>> >>>>> > On Feb 19, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > We havent dealt with 60ghz other than as an outside contractor so >>>>> ive never looked at performance directly. 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