I do redistribute, but so far limited to my kids...

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 2:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

nah, chuck is going to see the err of his ways, hoarding all that wealth. I 
think hes gonna come around and redistribute it.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 2:59 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  Pretty sure they're going to be waiting a loooong time...

  On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 3:21 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

    No, wasnt at a point yet for legitimate contact. Still am not. Hes on my 
list for that though. Im still hoping chuck mccown just cuts me a check. That 
would save so many people so much time.

    On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 2:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

      Did you talk to John?

      From: Steve Jones 
      Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 12:55 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

      Yeah,i may have burned that bridge, i filled out the generic contact form 
figuring id get a call for them to politely tell me to kick rocks, but i got a 
fast fuck off, go hang out with the other poors email. (It was actually a very 
polite and professional form letter)

      On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 1:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

        yep

        From: Jason McKemie 
        Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 12:16 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

        Is that liveoakbank.com?

        On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Talking to John Scrivner of Live Oak.  Looks like a good bank for 
guys like us.

          From: Mark Radabaugh 
          Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:47 PM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

          Tried that myself, in the end it wasn’t worth a shit.     Probably 
spent 15 years grooming a local bank.    They were more than happy to take our 
deposits, give us auto and real estate loans but when it came to fiber it was a 
completely different story. 

          In the end they were worthless.   Ended up going with Live Oak, who 
has been great to work with.

          Skip the local guys - they don’t understand anything that isn’t real 
estate or vehicles.     Get your books in order, do proper accrual accounting, 
quit expensing everything, and go find a bank that knows the industry.

          Stop wasting your time with the idiots.

          Mark





            On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            That’s important: “was on first name basis with VP and loan 
officer... “

            You gotta get a local bank, stick with it and get to know them and 
them get to know you.  Makes a huge difference.  

            From: Jaime Solorza 
            Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 5:30 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

            When I started my company in 1992, I had some large purchase orders 
from Johnson & Johnson plus GE Capcom which I used to receive loans from bank.  
Had to get them signed over to bank at first but after a few large orders, the 
bank gave me a $100,000.00 credit line to get ramped up...Always paid on time 
and never abused it...was on first name basis with VP and loan officer... 
            Not sure if banks are this open to help small businesses 
anymore...can't hurt to try....good luck

            On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:18 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Ive never done business loans before, just mortgage and personal. 

              Do lenders consider contracts to be future revenue? 

              Where is the best type of lender to look for with no business 
history? The local lender with the mortgages and local personal loans? National 
lenders? What about if 2021 deatroyed your personal credit to a fair rating, is 
a business loan even an option even with a contract exceeding the loan amount 
by 80 percent?

              Is the sba an actual resource to invest time into for starting 
something up, or is it like BBB.


              Aside from the loan question, when getting into underground work 
(laying pipe, and cablework) what expenses outside labor, insurance, 
maintenance(vehicle, equipment, staff lodging/per diem, fuel, etc), 
tax/workmans comp, etc do you come across? If you dont own the duct.




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