No, wasnt at a point yet for legitimate contact. Still am not. Hes on my
list for that though. Im still hoping chuck mccown just cuts me a check.
That would save so many people so much time.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 2:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Did you talk to John?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 12:55 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>
> Yeah,i may have burned that bridge, i filled out the generic contact form
> figuring id get a call for them to politely tell me to kick rocks, but i
> got a fast fuck off, go hang out with the other poors email. (It was
> actually a very polite and professional form letter)
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 1:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> yep
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 12:16 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>
>> Is that liveoakbank.com?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Talking to John Scrivner of Live Oak.  Looks like a good bank for guys
>>> like us.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 4, 2022 12:47 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>>
>>> Tried that myself, in the end it wasn’t worth a shit.     Probably spent
>>> 15 years grooming a local bank.    They were more than happy to take our
>>> deposits, give us auto and real estate loans but when it came to fiber it
>>> was a completely different story.
>>>
>>> In the end they were worthless.   Ended up going with Live Oak, who has
>>> been great to work with.
>>>
>>> Skip the local guys - they don’t understand anything that isn’t real
>>> estate or vehicles.     Get your books in order, do proper accrual
>>> accounting, quit expensing everything, and go find a bank that knows the
>>> industry.
>>>
>>> Stop wasting your time with the idiots.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That’s important: “was on first name basis with VP and loan officer... “
>>>
>>> You gotta get a local bank, stick with it and get to know them and them
>>> get to know you.  Makes a huge difference.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 5:30 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>>
>>> When I started my company in 1992, I had some large purchase orders from
>>> Johnson & Johnson plus GE Capcom which I used to receive loans from bank.
>>> Had to get them signed over to bank at first but after a few large orders,
>>> the bank gave me a $100,000.00 credit line to get ramped up...Always paid
>>> on time and never abused it...was on first name basis with VP and loan
>>> officer...
>>> Not sure if banks are this open to help small businesses anymore...can't
>>> hurt to try....good luck
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ive never done business loans before, just mortgage and personal.
>>>>
>>>> Do lenders consider contracts to be future revenue?
>>>>
>>>> Where is the best type of lender to look for with no business history?
>>>> The local lender with the mortgages and local personal loans? National
>>>> lenders? What about if 2021 deatroyed your personal credit to a fair
>>>> rating, is a business loan even an option even with a contract exceeding
>>>> the loan amount by 80 percent?
>>>>
>>>> Is the sba an actual resource to invest time into for starting
>>>> something up, or is it like BBB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aside from the loan question, when getting into underground work
>>>> (laying pipe, and cablework) what expenses outside labor, insurance,
>>>> maintenance(vehicle, equipment, staff lodging/per diem, fuel, etc),
>>>> tax/workmans comp, etc do you come across? If you dont own the duct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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