Yeah,i may have burned that bridge, i filled out the generic contact form
figuring id get a call for them to politely tell me to kick rocks, but i
got a fast fuck off, go hang out with the other poors email. (It was
actually a very polite and professional form letter)

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 1:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> yep
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 12:16 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>
> Is that liveoakbank.com?
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Talking to John Scrivner of Live Oak.  Looks like a good bank for guys
>> like us.
>>
>> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 4, 2022 12:47 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>
>> Tried that myself, in the end it wasn’t worth a shit.     Probably spent
>> 15 years grooming a local bank.    They were more than happy to take our
>> deposits, give us auto and real estate loans but when it came to fiber it
>> was a completely different story.
>>
>> In the end they were worthless.   Ended up going with Live Oak, who has
>> been great to work with.
>>
>> Skip the local guys - they don’t understand anything that isn’t real
>> estate or vehicles.     Get your books in order, do proper accrual
>> accounting, quit expensing everything, and go find a bank that knows the
>> industry.
>>
>> Stop wasting your time with the idiots.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That’s important: “was on first name basis with VP and loan officer... “
>>
>> You gotta get a local bank, stick with it and get to know them and them
>> get to know you.  Makes a huge difference.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 5:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>
>> When I started my company in 1992, I had some large purchase orders from
>> Johnson & Johnson plus GE Capcom which I used to receive loans from bank.
>> Had to get them signed over to bank at first but after a few large orders,
>> the bank gave me a $100,000.00 credit line to get ramped up...Always paid
>> on time and never abused it...was on first name basis with VP and loan
>> officer...
>> Not sure if banks are this open to help small businesses anymore...can't
>> hurt to try....good luck
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ive never done business loans before, just mortgage and personal.
>>>
>>> Do lenders consider contracts to be future revenue?
>>>
>>> Where is the best type of lender to look for with no business history?
>>> The local lender with the mortgages and local personal loans? National
>>> lenders? What about if 2021 deatroyed your personal credit to a fair
>>> rating, is a business loan even an option even with a contract exceeding
>>> the loan amount by 80 percent?
>>>
>>> Is the sba an actual resource to invest time into for starting something
>>> up, or is it like BBB.
>>>
>>>
>>> Aside from the loan question, when getting into underground work (laying
>>> pipe, and cablework) what expenses outside labor, insurance,
>>> maintenance(vehicle, equipment, staff lodging/per diem, fuel, etc),
>>> tax/workmans comp, etc do you come across? If you dont own the duct.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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