That's roughly my experience as well. I can do 200 miles on a charge in the summer, no problem (my car claims 240 miles at 100% charge), but I wouldn't be comfortable doing much over 100 miles at 0 degrees.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 12:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > They either have a heat pump or resistive heating. Heat pumps are much > more efficient. On a Nissan Leaf you have to select a trim option that has > a hybrid heater system. I have had both, both work just fine. He warm up > the car a bit faster than an ICE does. Resistive heats noticeably faster. > > Some cars have battery heaters. Leaf does not. That means in super cold, > like 0 degrees outside, the battery range is about 60% of that during a hot > summer day. My garage is not heated, that would make a difference. But > that’s not all, you get a double whammy with cold because cold batts will > not fully charge either. And it is a serious difference. In the summer I > will not balk at a 120 mile RT drive. But super cold will cut that in > half. That is not a hard limit, just the limit of comfort. It will go > farther. > > And you can always drop to 20-30 mph in any electric and double the > remaining range. > > *From:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 10:56 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers > > > Since a lot of you guys seem to have first hand experience with the EV’s > Ill ask. How do they do on range in cold environments? We have often > wondered how they heat the inside of the vehicle in -10F and how it affects > the range of the vehicle. Those temps are common for us in January and > February. > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 11:15 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers > > > > It's not thye electric motors that are at fault. Once the battery tech > gets sorted out, there will be no good reason to use dino-fuel. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/14/2022 9:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Sure, but efficiency isn't everything. Fortunately, EVs are also better at > torque than diesel and gasoline. > > > > Where they don't shine is range when actually working. > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Monday, February 14, 2022 11:06:28 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers > > It's approximately 33 KWH of electricity is equivalent to 1 gallon of > gasoline (probably less for diesel), so EVs with 60-80 KWH batteries are > running a couple hundred miles (or more) on the rough equivalent of < 3 > gallons of gas. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/14/2022 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > The funny thing is that while diesel has superior performance to gasoline > in many ways, EVs have superior performance to diesel in many ways. > > Kinda ironic... > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Monday, February 14, 2022 9:46:36 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers > > It's called "rolling coal", and it is all the rage for people who think > EVs are the devil's spawn. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/14/2022 6:38 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: > > In the past year I've observed that agressive driving seems to be the norm > now. More assholes, especially pickups using farm diesel > (black-foul-smelling-smoke). I been thinking of investing in a stash of > bumper stickers to stick on their trucks that says "shoot me please". > > On 2/13/22 12:28, Steve Jones wrote: > > Its possible that with the lower threshold more folks were able to be > arrested before they couldgo fora croaker cruise. > > > > Its more probable though that ride sharing grew during that period and the > generation of party drinkers used it more as a matter of trend. > > > > Drinking establishments being closed or otherwise inaccessible due to the > rona too probably playeda huge role, like the seeming disappearance of flu. > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 1:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > During Covid, in Utah, there have been the highest rate of deaths ever > recorded due to car crashes. > > Meanwhile, at approximately the same time another experiment was running. > > > > Late 2018 Utah lowered the blood alcohol level for driving from .08 to > .05%. > > Many, including myself, figured that there would not be a significant > difference. > > But I also commented at the time that this one will be easy to prove or > disprove. > > > > Deaths and crashes linked to drunken driving dropped by 19.8% since the > law took effect. I think one could say that is statistically significant. > Glad I was wrong. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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