That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling.  Scuba divers had to dive
> inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside.  Quite the ordeal.
> Good thing we had good insurance.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>
> Ouch
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track...  And it
>> was our fault...
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it
>> takes to make the landowner happy.  Not really their fault either if they
>> don’t know it is there.  Just the cost of doing business.  GL takes care of
>> hitting the city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement
>> etc.  My crews have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic.  2 of them
>> were our fault.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm no
>> taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put sod
>> down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition conducive to
>> root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
>> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
>> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need to
>> expose their own things that's a good idea.
>> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that can
>> open a whole lot of liabilities.
>> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine
>> restoration all the way to fuck you, pay me.
>> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for that.
>> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
>> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most anything
>> I hit unknowingly.
>> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It
>> leaked half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it
>> too, I just dont want to be obligated to.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
>>> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
>>> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
>>> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
>>> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
>>> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
>>> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
>>> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
>>> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
>>> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
>>> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
>>> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
>>> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
>>> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im missing.
>>> Ive sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate attorney, so
>>> may be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like that its 2
>>> pages, but I like liability even less.
>>> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work . I
>>> assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts will
>>> address all that.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance
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