You guys might not sign it, but a homeowner wanting fiber has the choice of
a) no fiber or b) sign it....they're going to sign it.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:10 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling.  Scuba divers had to
>> dive inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside.  Quite the
>> ordeal.  Good thing we had good insurance.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> Ouch
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track...  And it
>>> was our fault...
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>
>>> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it
>>> takes to make the landowner happy.  Not really their fault either if they
>>> don’t know it is there.  Just the cost of doing business.  GL takes care of
>>> hitting the city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement
>>> etc.  My crews have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic.  2 of them
>>> were our fault.
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>
>>> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm
>>> no taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put
>>> sod down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition conducive
>>> to root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
>>> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
>>> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need to
>>> expose their own things that's a good idea.
>>> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that can
>>> open a whole lot of liabilities.
>>> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine
>>> restoration all the way to fuck you, pay me.
>>> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for that.
>>> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
>>> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most anything
>>> I hit unknowingly.
>>> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It
>>> leaked half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it
>>> too, I just dont want to be obligated to.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
>>>> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
>>>> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
>>>> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
>>>> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
>>>> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
>>>> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
>>>> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
>>>> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
>>>> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
>>>> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
>>>> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
>>>> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
>>>> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im missing.
>>>> Ive sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate attorney, so
>>>> may be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like that its 2
>>>> pages, but I like liability even less.
>>>> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work . I
>>>> assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts will
>>>> address all that.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance
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