Tough crowd.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to
> distributors yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock
> MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.  My mistake.
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> What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a
> 30 day trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?
> And how are customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they
> don’t tell us the price?
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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> Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:11 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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> That's what my distributor has it listed for.
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> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Tyson Burris"
> Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature
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> I was told they are still talking about the final price.  Either way I can
> see the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:00 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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> I think you know the answer, it's $2000 per AP. $2500 MSRP.
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> I'd pay it if 3x and 4x modulations were suddenly 6x or 8x. But they're
> not.
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> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Craig Schmaderer"
> Sent: 2/1/2024 10:40:30 AM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature
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> $2000???   Please tell me that is not per Access Point?    I could handle
> maybe that for all of them.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:58 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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> This sector has a lot of long links, subs clustered in the middle of the
> sector, and several Ubiquiti WISPs in the same direction.  So the uplink
> modulation is poorer than downlink.  The SMs have narrow beams but the AP
> sees 90 degrees.
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> The other case where we get uplink problems is in 3 GHz when Verizon
> lights up CBRS on a celltower, but we can (mostly) solve that by matching
> LTE timing.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *castarritt
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:33 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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> I haven't seen a 450M sector get bad uplink modulation rates without
> downlink getting trashed too unless it was caused by a misconfig on our end
> causing self interference.
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> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:26?AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else tried the interference cancellation feature in 22.2 FW?
> (Free 30 day trial but license key is $2000.)
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> I tried it on what I thought was an ideal candidate sector, but my first
> impression is that it helps a little not a ton.  My uplink multiplexing
> gain was 1.0 so I figured I had nothing to lose.
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