Your outcomes with that feature sounded marginal. Maybe it’s not ready and they don’t want to charge money for it until it’s more fully baked. Just a WAG.
-Adam From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:12 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature They do seem to have some headwinds. But shareholder micromanagement is probably worse than stodgy product managers having the reins. Developing and releasing a feature and failing to charge for it seems counter to a mad scramble to make money. Unless they are finding that almost nobody wants it, which might be the case. Even if license keys seem like 100% profit, there has to be some finite cost to sell and activate the entitlements. If the number of sales would be in the single digits, it would actually make sense to just unlock it for free as Tyson Burris suggested. I would be surprised though. If nobody wants it, wouldn’t they just kill the feature so they wouldn’t have to support it? From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature Their shareholders are likely breathing down their necks even harder than their customers, so they are also in a mad scramble to make money. On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:23 AM Tyson Burris <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks breathing down their neck. I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this point. Tyson Burris President & CEO Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 317-738-0320 (office) [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net> Fixed Wireless Broadband - PtP/PtMP Solutions – Indoor/Oudoor Wifi - IP Cameras - Fiber – MDUs Active Member To The Following: <http://www.wispa.org/> WISPA <http://www.nbbc.coop/> NBBC Confidentiality Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No Binding Agreement: This email is not a binding agreement or contract of any kind, unless it specifically states otherwise and expressly refers to a duly authorized agreement signed by both parties. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of mine alone and do not necessarily represent those of the company. If you have any doubts about the validity or enforceability of any agreement or arrangement discussed in this email, please consult with an attorney. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature Tough crowd. On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to distributors yet. I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite. My mistake. What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days? And how are customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they don’t tell us the price? From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature Correction to my comment. I can’t see the benefit. Tyson Burris President & CEO Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 317-738-0320 (office) [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net> Fixed Wireless Broadband - PtP/PtMP Solutions – Indoor/Oudoor Wifi - IP Cameras - Fiber – MDUs Active Member To The Following: <http://www.wispa.org/> WISPA <http://www.nbbc.coop/> NBBC Confidentiality Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. 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From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:11 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature That's what my distributor has it listed for. ---- Original Message ---- From: "Tyson Burris" Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature I was told they are still talking about the final price. Either way I can see the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work. Tyson Burris President & CEO Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 317-738-0320 (office) [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ??www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net> Fixed Wireless Broadband - PtP/PtMP Solutions – Indoor/Oudoor Wifi - IP Cameras - Fiber – MDUs Active Member To The Following: <http://www.wispa.org/> WISPA <http://www.nbbc.coop/> NBBC Confidentiality Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. No Binding Agreement: This email is not a binding agreement or contract of any kind, unless it specifically states otherwise and expressly refers to a duly authorized agreement signed by both parties. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of mine alone and do not necessarily represent those of the company. If you have any doubts about the validity or enforceability of any agreement or arrangement discussed in this email, please consult with an attorney. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:00 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature I think you know the answer, it's $2000 per AP. $2500 MSRP. I'd pay it if 3x and 4x modulations were suddenly 6x or 8x. But they're not. ---- Original Message ---- From: "Craig Schmaderer" Sent: 2/1/2024 10:40:30 AM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature $2000??? Please tell me that is not per Access Point? I could handle maybe that for all of them. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:58 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature This sector has a lot of long links, subs clustered in the middle of the sector, and several Ubiquiti WISPs in the same direction. So the uplink modulation is poorer than downlink. The SMs have narrow beams but the AP sees 90 degrees. The other case where we get uplink problems is in 3 GHz when Verizon lights up CBRS on a celltower, but we can (mostly) solve that by matching LTE timing. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature I haven't seen a 450M sector get bad uplink modulation rates without downlink getting trashed too unless it was caused by a misconfig on our end causing self interference. On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:26?AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Has anyone else tried the interference cancellation feature in 22.2 FW? (Free 30 day trial but license key is $2000.) I tried it on what I thought was an ideal candidate sector, but my first impression is that it helps a little not a ton. 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