450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze it 
seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you optimize 
the settings.---- Original Message ----From: "Tyson Burris" Sent: 2/13/2024 
9:23:06 AMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 
450m uplink interference cancellation feature







Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.? I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.?

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From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
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Tough crowd.

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Turns out you are right, they haven?t released the license key to distributors 
yet.? I was looking at the P/N and price for the key
 to unlock MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.? My mistake.
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What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond
 the 30 days?? And how are customers supposed to decide if it?s worth the price 
if they don?t tell us the price?
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Correction to my comment.? I can?t see the benefit.
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That's what my distributor has it listed for.

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I was told they are still talking about the final price.? Either way I can see 
the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.
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From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

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I think you know the answer, it's $2000 per AP. $2500 MSRP.

I'd pay it if 3x and 4x modulations were suddenly 6x or 8x. But they're not.

---- Original Message ----
From: "Craig Schmaderer" 
Sent: 2/1/2024 10:40:30 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

$2000????? Please tell me that is not per Access Point???? I could handle maybe 
that for all of them.
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From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature


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This sector has a lot of long links, subs clustered in the middle of the 
sector, and several Ubiquiti WISPs in the same direction.? So the uplink 
modulation is poorer than downlink.?
 The SMs have narrow beams but the AP sees 90 degrees.
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The other case where we get uplink problems is in 3 GHz when Verizon lights up 
CBRS on a celltower, but we can (mostly) solve that by matching LTE timing.
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On Behalf Of castarritt
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

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I haven't seen a 450M sector get bad uplink modulation rates without downlink 
getting trashed too unless it was caused by a misconfig on our end causing self 
interference.

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:26?AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:





Has anyone else tried the interference cancellation feature in 22.2 FW?? (Free 
30 day trial but license key is $2000.)
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I tried it on what I thought was an ideal candidate sector, but my first 
impression is that it helps a little not a ton.? My uplink multiplexing gain 
was 1.0 so I figured I had
 nothing to lose.


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