What the doctor told me was if the drug was classified as a controlled 
substance (which amphetamines are, including lisdexamphetamine/Vyvanse) then 
there’s a quota applied to geographic areas.  The distributors are only allowed 
to sell x amount in a given region, and they parse the quota out to the 
different pharmacies.  Apparently this was some change implemented to combat 
opioid abuse.  He suggested try a rural pharmacy because they’re less likely to 
use up their quota.  So far that has worked out for me.  

 

If you were popping opioids it’s probably harder to maintain that habit now, 
but everyone who was using their pills as prescribed is collateral damage.  

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2024 2:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

People who take Vyvanse or even the generic equivalent probably wish they could 
make their own.  It ain’t cheap.

 

I thought we were now out of the 6 months exclusivity that the first generic 
gets, but the price hasn’t come down, and there are still shortages.  
Supposedly demand was up because people without any particular condition take 
it as kind of a performance enhancing drug.

 

If it works for someone’s ADHD symptoms, then you don’t want to be unable to 
refill your prescription and go back to feeling like a 4th of July fireworks 
show inside your brain.  Oddly, people with ADHD can also be somewhat autistic, 
they can go down a rabbit hole focusing on one thing for hours, but they can’t 
multitask because of all the mental distractions.  SQUIRREL!

 

Sometimes I suspect social media is giving everybody the equivalent of ADHD.  I 
have 5 things to do today.  Oh, look, Facebook.  Tiktok.  Texts.  Now where did 
the day go?

 

It makes me feel like a drug dealer selling Internet.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 12:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

After my last meth lab blew up my motor home, I quit doing it.  

 

 

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 11:07 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

I started on lisdexamfetamine recently.  My productivity is much higher.  My 
focus still drifts elsewhere, but I find I recenter on my main task more 
quickly.

 

ADHD is profoundly genetic by the way.  If your son has it then you or his 
mother does.  The current thinking is that it’s so widespread because it’s a 
survival adaptation which happens to not always fit well into the structures of 
our modern life.  A study in Kenya compared a nomadic population with a settled 
one.  The genes responsible are well known, so they could identify who in each 
population had them and compare their outcomes.  Among the settled population 
the kids with ADHD genes had worse grades in school, and the adults were less 
well nourished.  Among the hunter-gatherer nomads, the people with ADHD genes 
were more well nourished.  

 

We probably shouldn’t medicate kids for it as much as we do, but I’m saying in 
my case a little bump of amphetamine in the morning does me good.  

 

-Adam

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 3:50 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

OK, looking at it another way. Some people need meds to be normal. My son has a 
prescription for lisdexamfetamine because he has ADHD. He's not impaired, and 
it's not like he's a meth head.

That said, I can see a problem if your employee wants to smoke a joint in the 
workplace. Bigtime secondhand smoke problem. And if you don't want him 
operating machinery or vehicles, your insurance company would probably agree.

Has he asked to bring his emotional support alligator to work yet?

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jan-GAMs" 
Sent: 5/3/2024 2:20:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

First I would ask for the Dr. to call me.  2nd I would suspend the employee 
until the Dr. calls me.  It could be a type of pot that doesn't impair but I 
wouldn't want to take the chance.  Third, I'd find someone not impaired and 
have them do the job.  Put the doper in charge of a broom until layoff time.

On 5/3/24 09:40, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Darrin makes me think of Samantha.... oh, Samantha...

 

 

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:21 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

My google-foo says it can be:

Kevin
Ken
Gary
Terry

but I like Darren too.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 5/3/2024 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

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“I have a card” = entitled Karen (I forget the name for a male Karen, is it 
Darren?)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

I have always had employees that were in rehab.  But never had anyone using at 
work before this guy.  He pointed to the fact he has a pot card for anxiety.  I 
have a card in my pocket that says I am old enough to buy whisky too, but I 
doubt any employer would be OK with me sucking a flask while working.  

 

I know certain prescription conventional drugs can make you not safe to operate 
equipment.  But this guy had to operate equipment as part of his job.  I would 
make an accommodation for someone that had pain meds temporarily that left them 
a bit impaired but not as an every day thing.  

 

This guy was MAX drama too.  One thing I tell everyone when I hire them, the 
only thing I really care about is no drama.  Do not bring your drama to work.  

 

 

 

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

lite duty, no operating machinery or equipment

 

On Wed, May 1, 2024, 9:18?AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

I think the ADA does want you to accommodate rehab appointments in someone’s 
work schedule.  

…..which I would do anyway.  If they’re working on getting straight I don’t 
want to stand in their way.  I don’t know if anyone goes to rehab for pot 
though.  Probably not.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2024 5:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

Utah code 26-61a-111(4)..

 

"Nothing in this section requires a private employer to accommodate the use of 
medical cannabis or affects the ability of a private employer to have policies 
restricting the use of medical cannabis by applicants or employees."

 

There are also federal court cases where the court has determined that 
marijuana use is not subject to the ADA.

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 10:42?PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow them 
to partake at work.

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