Well…it is expensive, but fortunately I meet the insurance deductible by June 
every year due to wife and kids getting allergy shots.  After that the 
prescription copay is not so bad.  I skip the meds every weekend so I won’t 
build tolerance, and it lets me build my own secret reserve for times when 
availability is an issue.  I can’t say I ever felt like doing anything crazy or 
butchering anyone.

And yeah, I’m glad I don’t have any severe allergies.  The shots are a couple 
hundred bucks every week and then like 800 every 6 weeks or so when they get a 
new serum made.  And they need that for several years to make the effects 
permanent.

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:31:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

Id love to be on ADHD meds, but that prescription availability/price is a crazy 
risk. Folks find themselves doing wildly insane things when their meds suddenly 
cant be refilled, like butchering their family.

As for the prescribed pot BS, I have found that most of the people with a 
medical card didnt get it from their primary physician, they went to a mill doc 
and got the bought card. They have all kinds of reasons why they cant use the 
non intoxicating variants. Truth is theyre simply potheads with a get out of 
jail free card who its best to find any of the other reasons you can find to 
terminate their employment. Most of these types, its not hard to find a reason 
thats not related to their dependence on a weed.

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:34 PM Ken Hohhof 
<khoh...@kwom.com<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:

People who take Vyvanse or even the generic equivalent probably wish they could 
make their own.  It ain’t cheap.



I thought we were now out of the 6 months exclusivity that the first generic 
gets, but the price hasn’t come down, and there are still shortages.  
Supposedly demand was up because people without any particular condition take 
it as kind of a performance enhancing drug.



If it works for someone’s ADHD symptoms, then you don’t want to be unable to 
refill your prescription and go back to feeling like a 4th of July fireworks 
show inside your brain.  Oddly, people with ADHD can also be somewhat autistic, 
they can go down a rabbit hole focusing on one thing for hours, but they can’t 
multitask because of all the mental distractions.  SQUIRREL!



Sometimes I suspect social media is giving everybody the equivalent of ADHD.  I 
have 5 things to do today.  Oh, look, Facebook.  Tiktok.  Texts.  Now where did 
the day go?



It makes me feel like a drug dealer selling Internet.



From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



After my last meth lab blew up my motor home, I quit doing it.







From: dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 11:07 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



I started on lisdexamfetamine recently.  My productivity is much higher.  My 
focus still drifts elsewhere, but I find I recenter on my main task more 
quickly.



ADHD is profoundly genetic by the way.  If your son has it then you or his 
mother does.  The current thinking is that it’s so widespread because it’s a 
survival adaptation which happens to not always fit well into the structures of 
our modern life.  A study in Kenya compared a nomadic population with a settled 
one.  The genes responsible are well known, so they could identify who in each 
population had them and compare their outcomes.  Among the settled population 
the kids with ADHD genes had worse grades in school, and the adults were less 
well nourished.  Among the hunter-gatherer nomads, the people with ADHD genes 
were more well nourished.



We probably shouldn’t medicate kids for it as much as we do, but I’m saying in 
my case a little bump of amphetamine in the morning does me good.



-Adam







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Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 3:50 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



OK, looking at it another way. Some people need meds to be normal. My son has a 
prescription for lisdexamfetamine because he has ADHD. He's not impaired, and 
it's not like he's a meth head.

That said, I can see a problem if your employee wants to smoke a joint in the 
workplace. Bigtime secondhand smoke problem. And if you don't want him 
operating machinery or vehicles, your insurance company would probably agree.

Has he asked to bring his emotional support alligator to work yet?

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Sent: 5/3/2024 2:20:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

First I would ask for the Dr. to call me.  2nd I would suspend the employee 
until the Dr. calls me.  It could be a type of pot that doesn't impair but I 
wouldn't want to take the chance.  Third, I'd find someone not impaired and 
have them do the job.  Put the doper in charge of a broom until layoff time.

On 5/3/24 09:40, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Darrin makes me think of Samantha.... oh, Samantha...







From: Bill Prince

Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:21 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



My google-foo says it can be:

Kevin
Ken
Gary
Terry

but I like Darren too.



bp

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On 5/3/2024 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

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“I have a card” = entitled Karen (I forget the name for a male Karen, is it 
Darren?)



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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



I have always had employees that were in rehab.  But never had anyone using at 
work before this guy.  He pointed to the fact he has a pot card for anxiety.  I 
have a card in my pocket that says I am old enough to buy whisky too, but I 
doubt any employer would be OK with me sucking a flask while working.



I know certain prescription conventional drugs can make you not safe to operate 
equipment.  But this guy had to operate equipment as part of his job.  I would 
make an accommodation for someone that had pain meds temporarily that left them 
a bit impaired but not as an every day thing.



This guy was MAX drama too.  One thing I tell everyone when I hire them, the 
only thing I really care about is no drama.  Do not bring your drama to work.









From: Steve Jones

Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



lite duty, no operating machinery or equipment



On Wed, May 1, 2024, 9:18?AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

I think the ADA does want you to accommodate rehab appointments in someone’s 
work schedule.

…..which I would do anyway.  If they’re working on getting straight I don’t 
want to stand in their way.  I don’t know if anyone goes to rehab for pot 
though.  Probably not.



-Adam





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Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2024 5:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot



Utah code 26-61a-111(4)..



"Nothing in this section requires a private employer to accommodate the use of 
medical cannabis or affects the ability of a private employer to have policies 
restricting the use of medical cannabis by applicants or employees."



There are also federal court cases where the court has determined that 
marijuana use is not subject to the ADA.



On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 10:42?PM Chuck McCown via AF 
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If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow them 
to partake at work.

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