Yeah, I had to use a dlink firmware updater to update the tplink.
The comtrend one has wifi remote end, but only gast Ethernet


On Mon, Nov 17, 2025, 4:51 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’ve used the TP-Link ones within a building and out to a construction
> trailer fed from the main building panel and they worked fine.  I like the
> kits with the WiFi built into the far end.  I’ve not had good luck going
> between different buildings on a farm or even to a garage or in one case a
> “she shed”.
>
>
>
> DLink is dead to me ever since they sold a bunch of routers with huge
> security vulnerabilities and refused to even do firmware fixes.  I’m
> talking stuff like uPNP open on the WAN side.  A Google search will show
> I’m not the only one with this opinion.
>
>
>
> The two main chipmakers for Homeplug AV2 are Qualcomm and Broadcom.  So
> there shouldn’t be a huge difference in performance between equipment
> brands, I would expect the differences to be more in packaging, features
> and price.  Unless one chipset is significantly superior to the other.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2025 4:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and outbuildings
>
>
>
> They send the signal on the neutral.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2025, at 2:09 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I have had good experiences with D-Link and Netgear powerline adapters.
> We've had our TV on a powerline adapter (D-Link) for several years because
> I was too lazy to run another drop behind the TV.
>
> The difficult thing to get across is that (1) outlets on different
> subpanels will probably not connect, and (2) that the distance measured is
> the sum of each outlet to the common point (usually the subpanel, but see
> #1).
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/17/2025 12:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Art* not science.  I’ve had them work, more often I’ve had them not work**.
>
>
>
> * i.e. magic
>
> ** slow with packet loss
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf
> Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2025 2:18 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and outbuildings
>
>
>
> Im demoing different powerline adapters looking for one thats somewhat
> stable. I have a comtrend that did pretty well through 2 sub panels and a
> florescent fixture, but not handoff ready, if ever
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 12:19 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I am looking at making my business scale.  I'm not interested in any a)
> any copper or b) any PTP radios.  We do not make money on making it easier
> for these people to get two services.  I've had billions of issues with
> copper - 10/100/1000 rate issues, water, failures, etc.  I'm not interested
> in 60 GHz because people will park an RV in front of it and then it's
> screwed, causing a truck roll (I avoid truck rolls like the plague!)  Over
> the summer we've been mostly waiting on BEAD and just maintenance mode -
> basically 0 truck rolls.  This is what I want to see over the next 10+
> years.
>
>
>
> Our general steps are
>
>
>
> 1) see if our ONT (u6x) covers both buildings
>
> 2) add Mesh units (u4m) to try and extend it through houses/outbuildings
>
> 3) second service
>
>
>
> We tell the customer we will try the steps but if they want the best
> option they will need a second service.  We waive all installation costs to
> the second building on their property.  It's a 1x2 splitter from the
> original drop and then we Y it off.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 5:52 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Can I assume the bigger fiber ISP’s would not offer these options?
> Compared to local/regional providers that maybe started out as WISPs?
>
>
>
> I will say at least Illinois made an effort to hand out BEAD fiber awards
> to local companies.  Comcast fiber did get one area by me, but there’s a
> consortium of small telcos, and a small WISP/FISP from a town west of
> Rockford.  They also chose Amazon Kuiper (now renamed Amazon Leo) over
> Starlink, I don’t know if Amazon submitted a more attractive bid, or if it
> was just to poke a finger in Elon’s eye.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2025 12:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and outbuildings
>
>
>
> I think it depends on a mishmash of competition, distance, usage, and what
> your charity level is.
>
> If it's an outbuilding, then usage will probably be low, but if it's 1,000
> feet away, then it's a significant upgrade.
>
> If the customer is running a business out there, then usage might be
> significant, which could justify a separate account.
>
> and... what would your competitors do?
>
> Burying a cable (fiber or copper) is probably a significant expense, and
> if it can be cast as an extension, the simplest thing is T&M for the
> extension. However, if the usage is that low, then a PTP link would be
> simpler, cheaper, and satisfy the usage requirement.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/16/2025 9:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Now that we’re seeing a lot of rural fiber going in (or will soon due to
> BEAD), what is the typical approach when customers have outbuildings?
>
>
>
> Run a second drop and sell them a second service?  Give them a WiFi mesh
> extender and tell them to put it in the outbuilding and pray?  Bury a fiber
> or Ethernet cable from the house to the outbuilding and charge them a
> one-time fee?  Tell them it’s a home networking problem and call Geek
> Squad?  Assume WiFi7 “whole home WiFi” is so amazing it will just work?
>
>
>
> Some people just have a shed or barn, but lots also use them for family
> gatherings or football watch parties and there are definitely TVs out
> there.  I don’t think this is as common in the city and suburbs where fiber
> usually lives.
>
>
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