If a fat guys eats everything at an all you eat buffet every day and the price of the buffet goes up because of the ingredient replacement costs, everybody else is paying for the fat guy to eat a fat guys portion. His bulk discount gets everybody elses pocketbook lighter.
Data centers should be mandated to fund their own consumption back to the grid Then again I feel the Same about owners of EV charging stations, they should have an annual tax commensurate to their consumption to fund the delivery of their excess On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:47 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure it works that way, though, at least now up here in Illinois > PJM. I don't remember if it's the PJM or the Illinois part. > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 2:08:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series > > > > I implied it > > > Ameren in particular > > > They give datacenters bulk purchase discounts, and passed it on to the > consumers in great scale this year. > > > durp, sorry, they didnt win the bid on bulk purchase or some nonsense like > that > > > Its no different then us selling bulk DIA circuits at discounted rates to > a large client, then passing our increased upstream cost on to the > residential customers > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 1:47 PM Josh Luthman < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > I didn't say anything about data centers, nor did Steve. > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:31 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: > > > In the PJM region, that had very little to do with data centers, as I > outline in my article. > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 1:16:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series > > > > The typical residential electric bill is monstrously more expensive, > however, they aren't earning anything other than what they had before: > pitiful customer service, no options for alternatives, and general distaste > for their provider option. > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:04 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: > > > Could you restate that? > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2025 2:38:01 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series > > > > i love all the gain the citizens are buying on their utility bills > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 9:03 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: > > > I've been putting together some articles to debunk the massive amount of > datacenter FUD and misinformation. > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-data-centers-actually-mean-northern-illinois-mike-hammett-gcw1c > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/electricity-addendum-why-electric-bills-really-rose-what-mike-hammett-funxc?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B%2BQTxyzShQlymoMHIijY2xQ%3D%3D > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/addendum-property-values-eav-growth-taxes-dekalb-county-mike-hammett-tpbsc?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B%2BQTxyzShQlymoMHIijY2xQ%3D%3D > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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