Hell, I have no issue with the government taking over the power grid if every data center had a tax commensurate to the build of the infrastructure from them to the point of generation
On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 3:09 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > If a fat guys eats everything at an all you eat buffet every day and the > price of the buffet goes up because of the ingredient replacement costs, > everybody else is paying for the fat guy to eat a fat guys portion. His > bulk discount gets everybody elses pocketbook lighter. > > Data centers should be mandated to fund their own consumption back to the > grid > Then again I feel the Same about owners of EV charging stations, they > should have an annual tax commensurate to their consumption to fund the > delivery of their excess > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:47 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm not sure it works that way, though, at least now up here in Illinois >> PJM. I don't remember if it's the PJM or the Illinois part. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 2:08:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series >> >> >> >> I implied it >> >> >> Ameren in particular >> >> >> They give datacenters bulk purchase discounts, and passed it on to the >> consumers in great scale this year. >> >> >> durp, sorry, they didnt win the bid on bulk purchase or some nonsense >> like that >> >> >> Its no different then us selling bulk DIA circuits at discounted rates to >> a large client, then passing our increased upstream cost on to the >> residential customers >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 1:47 PM Josh Luthman < >> [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> >> I didn't say anything about data centers, nor did Steve. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:31 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> In the PJM region, that had very little to do with data centers, as I >> outline in my article. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 1:16:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series >> >> >> >> The typical residential electric bill is monstrously more expensive, >> however, they aren't earning anything other than what they had before: >> pitiful customer service, no options for alternatives, and general distaste >> for their provider option. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 2:04 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> Could you restate that? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > >> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2025 2:38:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data Center Article Series >> >> >> >> i love all the gain the citizens are buying on their utility bills >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 9:03 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> I've been putting together some articles to debunk the massive amount of >> datacenter FUD and misinformation. >> >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-data-centers-actually-mean-northern-illinois-mike-hammett-gcw1c >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/electricity-addendum-why-electric-bills-really-rose-what-mike-hammett-funxc?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B%2BQTxyzShQlymoMHIijY2xQ%3D%3D >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/addendum-property-values-eav-growth-taxes-dekalb-county-mike-hammett-tpbsc?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B%2BQTxyzShQlymoMHIijY2xQ%3D%3D >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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