If I did move the list to my own servers it would probably update
faster…. But I am lazy…..
Interesting, seems only liberals get pissed and leave. I wonder what
a sociologist would have to say about that…
*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:19 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland
Yeah…. I love a good pot stir.
I think you would fail the Turing test for the wrong reasons though…
*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:05 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland
Especially with AIs like me stirring the pot.
bp
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On 1/24/2026 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
You got three choices”
Take your own advice and “don’t post this political shit. “
Because it is all opinion. Full of falsehoods, rhetoric,
hyperbole and minor particles of truth totally surrounded by
horseshit. Yours more than most in my opinion.
Or just sit back and enjoy the game.
Or you can leave. Like you say, it is a terrible platform… Why
would you want to even hang around here…
*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2026 7:41 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland
I just went back and looked, and my first post here was in 2012.
So maybe not 20 years here, but 13.
I can remember some pretty garbage times on this list every time
politics get raised, even to the point of certain people leaving,
because this is a terrible platform to trump(et) your views. Been
on the internet for over 30 years and not once have I seen sane
political discourse on message boards or social media. It's even
worse with astroturfing in every direction, literal bots riling up
people in whatever direction Russia or India or China wants.
You've seen it, you've seen the bot problems on all social media,
and yet David talks about the USA standing up to Russia like
they're doing fucking anything about it. Other countries try to
get rid of the garbage social media companies from the USA and
trumpster unilaterally threatens tariffs and cries like a little
baby.
The fact that the USA has gone so far down the path that you
literally have a man who apparently can do whatever they want with
no consequences is the broke brain part of my statements. A
literal rapist, thief. Cool. Nice job. You guys did it. Build the
wall and ya'll can sort each-other out.
Pick and choose your platforms, figure out what is real and what
isn't. Go talk to people in the physical world. You'll get to
understand your fellow man a lot quicker and if your aim is to
make change.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 5:51 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
OT in the subject line frequently means political shit. Many
have been hanging here 20 years. We can bitch without having
social media algorithms listening. There is an animal farm FB
group but it is unused. I think..
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 23, 2026, at 5:56 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]>
wrote:
David, you are honestly clueless, there is nothing that
can be said to you to get you to see the light. This is
extremely typical with your ilk. You can see it in your
responses of things like "libs" or "the left"
Have a good day, stop posting political shit here.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 4:49 PM David Hannum via AF
<[email protected]> wrote:
See the response when you give a response that has
thought behind it! Libs just resort to personal
insults. It's all they have. No rebuttals, just
personal attacks. Sad . . .
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026, 7:44 PM Ryan Ray
<[email protected]> wrote:
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Hannum via
AF <[email protected]> wrote:
I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust
us. They don't LIKE lots of what Trump does,
I think they see strength. I think they see
"America First" and they respect that because
they understand that as the USA goes, they
go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who
will stick their finger in the face of Russia
and China. They need us to be like that
because they can't/won't be like that for
themselves. The European nations are all
followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama did not
lead. Obama was apologetic of the success of
the US. My biggest fear is what comes AFTER
Trump? Every country in the world can't be
equal. Nothing gets done. And China and
Russia aren't going to play that game.
Dave
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
It's still totally unnecessary, and does
nothing but create confusion and distrust.
If you want our allies to distrust us,
then do shit like this.
May actually be too late. They already
distrust us, and China and Russia are
loving it. Just look at what Carney said.
Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass,
and that's probably where we should be going.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF
wrote:
Even if it is what existed before, the
world is on notice that we are
planning to deploy defense systems
there. So yea, it's still a win and
Trump can take a victory lap (like he
needs a reason . . . )
Dave
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill
Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
Even though it was Wednesday, I
will call it a TACO day (follow
the stock market).
There are zero details of what the
"deal" is or isn't, and I'm
betting it's essentially what
existed before.
Prove me wrong.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway
wrote:
Looks like Trump got the deal
he wanted. Everyone is happy :).
Rory
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at
7:11 AM MVTVWISPA
<[email protected]> wrote:
David-
I too read that exact
information from Facebook
posts word for word.
*From:*AF
<[email protected]>
*On Behalf Of *David
Hannum via AF
*Sent:* Wednesday, January
21, 2026 3:33 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group <[email protected]>
*Cc:* David Hannum
<[email protected]>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT -
Greenland
So many think Trump is a
bully on Greenland . . .
If you think he's so
terrible, you absolutely
don’t know history.
1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson:
explored buying Greenland
& Iceland (right after
Alaska).
2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took
over Greenland’s defense
while Denmark was occupied.
3) 1946 – Truman: offered
$100M in gold to buy it.
4) Cold War – Eisenhower
→ Kennedy: nonstop
negotiations for bases,
radar, missiles.
5) Post–Cold War –
Clinton/Bush/Obama:
expanded Arctic security &
missile defense.
6) 2019 – Trump: said
publicly what presidents
discussed privately for
150+ years.
The U.S. didn’t “suddenly”
want Greenland.
It’s been defending it,
negotiating it, and
embedding there since the
1800s.
Greenland = Arctic power,
shipping lanes, missiles,
minerals.
Trump didn’t invent it.
His crime is he said the
quiet part out loud.
=======================
NATO Secretary General
Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21
at the World Economic
Forum in Davos,
Switzerland, that Trump is
spot on about the
importance of Greenland to
security. He said, "When
it comes to the Arctic, I
think President Trump is
right. Other leaders in
NATO are right. We need to
defend the Arctic. There
are eight countries
bordering on the Arctic.
Seven are members of NATO.
That’s Finland, Sweden,
Norway, Denmark, Iceland,
Canada, and the U.S.,”
Rutte said.
"And there’s only one
country bordering on the
Arctic outside NATO, and
that’s Russia. And I would
argue there is a ninth
country, which is China,
which is increasingly
active in the Arctic
region. So, President
Trump and other leaders
are right, we have to do
more there; we have to
protect the Arctic."
Dave Hannum
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