Use REALLY BRIGHT LASER LEDs. Then use a photo cell to generate power
right there.
bp
On 10/12/2014 11:43 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
stupid question, but i know the fiber mikrotik stuff / demarc still
needs power. what if the point you enter the house does not have
power right there? how do you hook that up? utilize POE in some
shape, form, or fashion?
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*From:* Gino Villarini via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]%3E>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza
Still using the firce10 switches?
Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Our ROI is 5 years. We fund per neighborhood and usually come out
easily paying out the 5 years monthly on the loan plus plenty
left over for operations.
Our build costs to the home are skewed because we build at cost.
It�s going to vary a lot by your market and circumstance.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
via Af
*Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:58 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza
Any numbers on what it costs to serve an average urban or
suburban neighborhood per home ? Trying to get some ideas if we
can afford the investment in fiber.
Like what would it cost to serve say 100 or 200 homes? And idea
on roi if you were paying for the fiber to be laid like I will be?
On Oct 11, 2014 9:46 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the
neighborhood and set up a cabinet that serves all the houses
in active Ethernet fiber.
GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was
burial of conduit that it really didn�t make sense to just
pull for GPON.
Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market.
My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month,
but it works for hundreds a POP.
A POP is about $15k for 200+ connections completely contained
and redundant.
The end points and fiber construction are on top of that of
course.
That is the major expense, the labor to bore and trench and
splice hella ton of conduit, boxes and fiber strands.
My entire GigE NID/ONT setup is less than $100 installed though.
Buried conduit all the way to the side of the house, and
fiber to the NID.
It�s built to last, the conduit and fiber being our biggest
expense and asset.
Mikrotik �ONT� and off the shelf lasers from china for next
to nothing.
I haven�t seen any cheaper ONT setup than what we do, and
it�s full GigE.
The only piece of the puzzle I�m missing to do 10GigE to the
home is a cheaper transceiver.
I�m sure that will come next year. Sky�s the limit once the
fiber is in the ground on a one to one basis with the switch
and the ONT.
We leave enough fiber to do a pair at the house, though
everything is BIDI right now.
I don�t believe in VoIP or TV, so it�s all Ethernet. The
customer can get their traditional phone and TV elsewhere.
Which is nice for regulations because we dodge every single
headache I used to have with a WISP.
This fiber stuff is soooooooooooooooo much better and easier.
Costs more though.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jason Pond via Af
*Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:03 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza
So enlighten us to what you are doing Sterling. So far so good.
Tomorrow will answer some more.
Sincerely,
Jason Pond
Owner
Grizzly Internet, Inc
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
On Oct 11, 2014 6:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Anyone there that would like to update?
I couldn't make it.
Not sure that I would have gotten anything out of it anyways.
I don't use any equipment from any of the
sponsors/vendors of fiber weekend.
I'm just curious if they are all talking/preaching the
same ONT/deployment strategies as usual?
I wonder how close they are to what I am doing.
