Yep. I saw it as well. Common in South America Jaime Solorza On Nov 5, 2014 7:16 PM, "Caleb Knauer via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <sarcastic comment on how that would require an "air" device to have a > working NMS/controller> > > > > On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If it is made by UBNT, then it would be the AirMeter. >> >> bp >> >> On 11/5/2014 1:43 PM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote: >> >>> Hmmm, Chuck M is showing a lot of interest in smart meters. I'm >>> calling it right now: UniMeter. Cloud-based 900Mhz meshed smart >>> meters. I'll license you the use of that name for a nominal fee. >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In fact...the smart grid can help eliminate rolling brownouts/blackouts >>>> by >>>> carefully managing the power delivered to customers on the end of the >>>> lines >>>> by controlling the delivered voltage. Basically, these meters give power >>>> companies the ability to measure the voltage delivered to meet the >>>> minimum >>>> requirements at the end of each feed... Substation transformers can >>>> then be >>>> set to deliver lower voltage (= lower power usage) thus avoiding >>>> brownouts...of course, load control (turning off your A/C) doesn't hurt >>>> either. >>>> >>>> Pre-smart grid, the main way the power company knew about lines going >>>> down >>>> (storms, trees, etc) was when they got a phone call. These meters will >>>> tell >>>> them where they have issues so they can route around much much much >>>> faster; >>>> other parts of the smart grid can allow power to be rerouted from a >>>> control >>>> panel rather than a power company truck and a guy with an insulated >>>> stick >>>> throwing a switch in the rain. >>>> >>>> It is a fascinating topic... >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The smartgrid does have the benefit off allowing essential services to >>>>> stay up in the event of rolling black/brownouts >>>>> >>>>> I watched a PBS show about the power situation over in India or one of >>>>> those places, its crazy, people steal power left and right just tying >>>>> onto >>>>> the wires. The transformers are always catching fire and people dump >>>>> water >>>>> on them. As much as I hate US power companies, I cant imagine living >>>>> over >>>>> there. Linemen get beat up alot >>>>> >>>>> You could tell the show was geared at it being a humanitarian issue, >>>>> these >>>>> poor people losing their power... how will they survive, but the >>>>> majority of >>>>> the background images were of people powering consumer electronics... >>>>> not a >>>>> justifiable theft IMHO... I did not know TV was a basic human right >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chuck Macenski via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Smart meters certainly can shut you off remotely. That is a huge >>>>>> safety >>>>>> benefit to the power companies - it turns out that turning the power >>>>>> off to >>>>>> a customer that has not paid their bill is not always a pleasant >>>>>> experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From ComEd smartmeter FAQ: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Smart meters for residential customers will have remote switching >>>>>>> capabilities that can be used when a customer closes an account, then >>>>>>> reconnects when the customer starts a new account." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "One of the benefits of this remote switching capability is that >>>>>>> ComEd >>>>>>> can provide electrical service to customers more quickly, after the >>>>>>> customer >>>>>>> has contacted ComEd to initiate service. ComEd can also expedite the >>>>>>> transfer of electrical service when a customer moves from one >>>>>>> location to >>>>>>> another within the ComEd service territory." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see a post on the Mike Holt electrician forum about whether calling >>>>>>> the electric company and having them remotely shut off the power >>>>>>> makes it >>>>>>> safe to work on, as opposed to pulling the meter. (hell no) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince via Af >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, maybe some of them. I don't think the ones around here have >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> capability. Wouldn't they have to have some large contactors and a >>>>>>> relay? I think that alone occupies a lot more space than the >>>>>>> smartmeters occupy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For now I think they are mostly big brother watching. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/5/2014 8:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think a smartmeter is? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I compare it to cable. With analog cable, they had to send a guy >>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>> truck to shut off your service, but with digital cable a computer >>>>>>>> can do it >>>>>>>> any time. I assume smartmeters have a remote shutoff capability. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:38 AM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One day the circuit breakers will all be connected and automated and >>>>>>>> we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> circuit breaker... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you unplugged your fridge lately? You have to roll it out. >>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>> involves taking off the grill at the bottom and figuring out what >>>>>>>>> kind >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> wrench you need to crank up the leveling screws. Then your wife >>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> pick up the dead mice and pet turtles and get out the vacuum and >>>>>>>>> sweep >>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>> all the dog hair and dried up vegetables that are back there. Then >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> climb back there and unplug it, count one Mississippi two >>>>>>>>> Mississippi, >>>>>>>>> plug >>>>>>>>> it back in, climb back out, roll the fridge back, re-level it, and >>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> grill back on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Bill Prince via Af >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:18 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unplug it/plug it back in is cheaper than putting in an on/off >>>>>>>>> switch >>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>> re-init switch). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd be happy to share in that job. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My big beef with our brave new world is that you have to reboot >>>>>>>>> everything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Microwave display is screwed up....unplug it and plug it back in. >>>>>>>>> Washing machine digital display is not responding.....unplug it and >>>>>>>>> plug it >>>>>>>>> back in. >>>>>>>>> DVD Player frozen.....unplug it and plug it back in. >>>>>>>>> Dodge Intrepid won't shift gears......turn it off and turn it back >>>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These are all true stories. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The internet of things will be a network of crap that doesn't work >>>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>>> you reboot it regularly. When they are up, the "things" will all >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> participating in a botnet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> finally someone took over Doug's job of letting us all know the >>>>>>>>> sky is >>>>>>>>> falling!?!? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hip hip hooray...long live Ken the prognosticator! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The apocalypse is coming!!!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Soon, when your Internet goes out, you won’t even be able to open >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> garage door or flush your toilet, because it will all be in the >>>>>>>>>> cloud. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And as ISPs, we’ll be getting angry calls like “Is the tower >>>>>>>>>> down? I >>>>>>>>>> can’t flush my toilet.” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You think I’m joking? Remember the thread about LED bulbs >>>>>>>>>> interfering >>>>>>>>>> with garage door openers? One of the suggested fixes is a garage >>>>>>>>>> door >>>>>>>>>> opener app on your smartphone. I assume that only works if your >>>>>>>>>> smarthouse >>>>>>>>>> has working Internet. Our hives will cease to operate if you cut >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> connection to the collective. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m imagining that something goes wrong with the cloud controller, >>>>>>>>>> and now >>>>>>>>>> I can’t even use WiFi within my house, like printing to my >>>>>>>>>> wireless >>>>>>>>>> printer >>>>>>>>>> or using Chromecast to my TV. Yes, I know, Unifi should continue >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> operate >>>>>>>>>> without the controller once set up, but do some features stop >>>>>>>>>> working? Like >>>>>>>>>> handoff between APs? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Josh Baird via Af >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:47 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can host them all on a single controller in your datacenter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it without a >>>>>>>>>> controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a windows >>>>>>>>>> machine? >>>>>>>>>> Install a unifi "server" ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> UBNT UniFi...one SSID >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi >>>>>>>>>>>> coverage? >>>>>>>>>>>> Any options besides multiple routers with multiple ssid's? Does >>>>>>>>>>>> rukus or >>>>>>>>>>>> someone make something with true roaming? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>> the >>>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>>> can't >>>>> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>>>> use a >>>>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
