Hmmm, Chuck M is showing a lot of interest in smart meters. I'm calling it right now: UniMeter. Cloud-based 900Mhz meshed smart meters. I'll license you the use of that name for a nominal fee.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > In fact...the smart grid can help eliminate rolling brownouts/blackouts by > carefully managing the power delivered to customers on the end of the lines > by controlling the delivered voltage. Basically, these meters give power > companies the ability to measure the voltage delivered to meet the minimum > requirements at the end of each feed... Substation transformers can then be > set to deliver lower voltage (= lower power usage) thus avoiding > brownouts...of course, load control (turning off your A/C) doesn't hurt > either. > > Pre-smart grid, the main way the power company knew about lines going down > (storms, trees, etc) was when they got a phone call. These meters will tell > them where they have issues so they can route around much much much faster; > other parts of the smart grid can allow power to be rerouted from a control > panel rather than a power company truck and a guy with an insulated stick > throwing a switch in the rain. > > It is a fascinating topic... > > Chuck > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The smartgrid does have the benefit off allowing essential services to >> stay up in the event of rolling black/brownouts >> >> I watched a PBS show about the power situation over in India or one of >> those places, its crazy, people steal power left and right just tying onto >> the wires. The transformers are always catching fire and people dump water >> on them. As much as I hate US power companies, I cant imagine living over >> there. Linemen get beat up alot >> >> You could tell the show was geared at it being a humanitarian issue, these >> poor people losing their power... how will they survive, but the majority of >> the background images were of people powering consumer electronics... not a >> justifiable theft IMHO... I did not know TV was a basic human right >> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chuck Macenski via Af <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Smart meters certainly can shut you off remotely. That is a huge safety >>> benefit to the power companies - it turns out that turning the power off to >>> a customer that has not paid their bill is not always a pleasant experience. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> From ComEd smartmeter FAQ: >>>> >>>> "Smart meters for residential customers will have remote switching >>>> capabilities that can be used when a customer closes an account, then >>>> reconnects when the customer starts a new account." >>>> >>>> "One of the benefits of this remote switching capability is that ComEd >>>> can provide electrical service to customers more quickly, after the >>>> customer >>>> has contacted ComEd to initiate service. ComEd can also expedite the >>>> transfer of electrical service when a customer moves from one location to >>>> another within the ComEd service territory." >>>> >>>> I see a post on the Mike Holt electrician forum about whether calling >>>> the electric company and having them remotely shut off the power makes it >>>> safe to work on, as opposed to pulling the meter. (hell no) >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince via Af >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM >>>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>> >>>> Well, maybe some of them. I don't think the ones around here have that >>>> capability. Wouldn't they have to have some large contactors and a >>>> relay? I think that alone occupies a lot more space than the >>>> smartmeters occupy. >>>> >>>> For now I think they are mostly big brother watching. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> On 11/5/2014 8:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What do you think a smartmeter is? >>>>> >>>>> I compare it to cable. With analog cable, they had to send a guy in a >>>>> truck to shut off your service, but with digital cable a computer can do >>>>> it >>>>> any time. I assume smartmeters have a remote shutoff capability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:38 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>> >>>>> One day the circuit breakers will all be connected and automated and >>>>> we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> circuit breaker... >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:15 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you unplugged your fridge lately? You have to roll it out. That >>>>>> involves taking off the grill at the bottom and figuring out what kind >>>>>> of >>>>>> wrench you need to crank up the leveling screws. Then your wife makes >>>>>> you >>>>>> pick up the dead mice and pet turtles and get out the vacuum and sweep >>>>>> up >>>>>> all the dog hair and dried up vegetables that are back there. Then you >>>>>> climb back there and unplug it, count one Mississippi two Mississippi, >>>>>> plug >>>>>> it back in, climb back out, roll the fridge back, re-level it, and put >>>>>> the >>>>>> grill back on. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Bill Prince via Af >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:18 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>> >>>>>> Unplug it/plug it back in is cheaper than putting in an on/off switch >>>>>> (or >>>>>> re-init switch). >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd be happy to share in that job. >>>>>> >>>>>> My big beef with our brave new world is that you have to reboot >>>>>> everything. >>>>>> >>>>>> Microwave display is screwed up....unplug it and plug it back in. >>>>>> Washing machine digital display is not responding.....unplug it and >>>>>> plug it >>>>>> back in. >>>>>> DVD Player frozen.....unplug it and plug it back in. >>>>>> Dodge Intrepid won't shift gears......turn it off and turn it back on. >>>>>> >>>>>> These are all true stories. >>>>>> >>>>>> The internet of things will be a network of crap that doesn't work >>>>>> unless >>>>>> you reboot it regularly. When they are up, the "things" will all be >>>>>> participating in a botnet. >>>>>> >>>>>> finally someone took over Doug's job of letting us all know the sky is >>>>>> falling!?!? >>>>>> >>>>>> hip hip hooray...long live Ken the prognosticator! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The apocalypse is coming!!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Soon, when your Internet goes out, you won’t even be able to open >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> garage door or flush your toilet, because it will all be in the >>>>>>> cloud. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And as ISPs, we’ll be getting angry calls like “Is the tower down? I >>>>>>> can’t flush my toilet.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You think I’m joking? Remember the thread about LED bulbs >>>>>>> interfering >>>>>>> with garage door openers? One of the suggested fixes is a garage >>>>>>> door >>>>>>> opener app on your smartphone. I assume that only works if your >>>>>>> smarthouse >>>>>>> has working Internet. Our hives will cease to operate if you cut the >>>>>>> connection to the collective. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m imagining that something goes wrong with the cloud controller, >>>>>>> and now >>>>>>> I can’t even use WiFi within my house, like printing to my wireless >>>>>>> printer >>>>>>> or using Chromecast to my TV. Yes, I know, Unifi should continue to >>>>>>> operate >>>>>>> without the controller once set up, but do some features stop >>>>>>> working? Like >>>>>>> handoff between APs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Josh Baird via Af >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:47 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can host them all on a single controller in your datacenter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it without a >>>>>>> controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a windows >>>>>>> machine? >>>>>>> Install a unifi "server" ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> UBNT UniFi...one SSID >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi >>>>>>>>> coverage? >>>>>>>>> Any options besides multiple routers with multiple ssid's? Does >>>>>>>>> rukus or >>>>>>>>> someone make something with true roaming? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't >> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a >> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > >
