Canopy guys seem to like it one way and one way only. Crotchety old men...
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to
access??? Just add the features that people want, if you don't like
'em don't use 'em!
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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in
the ass having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we
auto-configure a lot of it, but there are still have to get into
them to look at signal strength and such during the install or
when troubleshooting.
Mark
On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible
multiple times a day?
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*From:*"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could
MacGyver it, but rather a session list right there in the GUI
with every subscriber listed by name, and you click on the
name and shazzam, you are logged into that SM.
Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K
Purewave basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC
addresses by subscriber name, but if you want to see any stats
or change the config for that subscriber, you have to find him
by his MAC address, not by name. The expensive piece of crap
equipment has all the information to make your life easy, but
no, it acts like a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out
an NMS that I assumed would add this level of intelligence,
but no.
So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some
MAC telnet tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one
click and boom. If you don’t find it useful, fine. Most of
us use it multiple times every day. It’s a cool feature.
*From:*Mathew Howard via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind
of have to wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP,
for that matter. it seems like it would be pretty simple to
add and incredibly useful.
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on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP
devices on my network.
Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you
can get to any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you
can get to the rest. Router, AP, CPE, doesn't matter.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From:*"Steve D via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*"af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Mike,
You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there
instead of just embracing a good feature that works? Yes,
there are ways around, BUT, the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just
works*. No thinking about how to get to that SM is required,
if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end of
story.
-Steve D
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via
Af<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From:*"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets
you a CLI on the target client. The proxy is nice because
you can run the web gui.
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bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to
anything on that layer 2 segment. That sounds more
useful than this proxy.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From:*"Vlad Sedov via Af"mailto:[email protected]
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is
the internal network between the AP and the SMs
(169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so
smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy
of having the right IP address set in the SM before
you can manage it (even when connecting from the AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS
mapping a major headache.. We don't pre-map SMs
before they go out into the field, so with ePMPs, I
have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2
address in the closest Mikrotik router, and use the
Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP,
rinse, repeat.
Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I
really, really hope it gets properly implemented.
Vlad
On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be
done with epmp?
Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For our install method proxy access (or some
means of remote access to a minimally
configured CPE) is a must have. The
installers do NOT have to get out a computer
or otherwise access the device. Power it up,
point it at the tower, listen for signal, call
the office for a signal quality check and go.
Everything regarding CPE programming can be
done remotely.
This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to
the AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as
clean as Canopy.
No way at all that I know of with ePMP.
Mark
On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via
Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Use it all the time. Between it and
installer color code field techs can't
FUBAR an install. When our larger
networks were vlan'd years ago that made
the process super safe.
One of the "best features" of the canopy
platform in my book. It annoys me working
on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has
typo'd something like an IP or vlan.
On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via
Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Me too.
I don't know how many times I've used
it, but it's more than I have finger
to count on.
--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot}
com>
On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
No, rather just have it.
On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh
Luthman via Af wrote:
Rather have it and not need it
then need it and not have it.
Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct:937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike
Hammett via Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I used it a couple times
on my Canopy gear, but it
was never a show-stopper
to not have it.
This brings me to a new
post...
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From:*"George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting) via
Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To:*[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Wednesday, December
17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject:*[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and
chicks, I am disappointed.
I thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM
"click-thru" access, aka
LUID proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you
give me is a URL with the
IP of the SM.
Informational helpful,
yes, operationally
helpful, no.
I'm guessing you need an
RF private network like
exists on Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.
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