Its ok George someone around here thought I was 70 :) LOL!
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < [email protected]> wrote: > > I just turned 30, guess I'm an old man because I use Canopy. I'm done > arguing. Merry Christmas. Now get off my lawn. > > On 12/18/2014 8:23 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: > > Um... who are you calling old? Josh just started shaving last week. > (Ok - I'm kidding, but I'm pretty sure he is under 30). > > And dammit - I've earned the right to be a crotchety old man and screw > it - I'm going to enjoy it. > > Mark > > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Canopy guys seem to like it one way and one way only. Crotchety old > men... > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to > access??? Just add the features that people want, if you don't like 'em > don't use 'em! > > </thread> > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the >> ass having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we >> auto-configure a lot of it, but there are still have to get into them to >> look at signal strength and such during the install or when troubleshooting. >> >> Mark >> >> On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible multiple >> times a day? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it, >> but rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber >> listed by name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged into >> that SM. >> >> Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave >> basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber name, >> but if you want to see any stats or change the config for that subscriber, >> you have to find him by his MAC address, not by name. The expensive piece >> of crap equipment has all the information to make your life easy, but no, >> it acts like a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out an NMS that I >> assumed would add this level of intelligence, but no. >> >> So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC telnet >> tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and boom. If you >> don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it multiple times every day. >> It’s a cool feature. >> >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have >> to wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter. it >> seems like it would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [ >> [email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices >> on my network. >> >> Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to >> any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the rest. >> Router, AP, CPE, doesn't matter. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Steve D via Af" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> Mike, >> >> You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead of >> just embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there are ways around, BUT, >> the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No thinking about how to get to that >> SM is required, if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end >> of story. >> >> -Steve D >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >>> >>> Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI on >>> the target client. The proxy is nice because you can run the web gui. >>> >>> -- >>> bp >>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> >>> >>> >>> On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >>> >>> With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that layer >>> 2 segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Vlad Sedov via Af" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >>> >>> One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal >>> network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the >>> proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having >>> the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when >>> connecting from the AP). >>> We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major >>> headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with >>> ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in >>> the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. >>> Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. >>> >>> Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope >>> it gets properly implemented. >>> >>> Vlad >>> >>> On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>> >>> How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access >>>> to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have >>>> to get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point >>>> it at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality >>>> check and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. >>>> >>>> >>>> This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the >>>> CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. >>>> >>>> No way at all that I know of with ePMP. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs >>>> can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago >>>> that made the process super safe. >>>> One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It >>>> annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something >>>> like an IP or vlan. >>>> On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Me too. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have >>>>> finger to count on. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> bp >>>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, rather just have it. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a >>>>>> show-stopper to not have it. >>>>>> >>>>>> This brings me to a new post... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy >>>>>> >>>>>> OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you >>>>>> guys >>>>>> had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is >>>>>> not >>>>>> the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. >>>>>> Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to >>>>>> make this work. Please do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> <http://www.avast.com/> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> > >
