+3db over non-HP models. I'll sell one link with full speed, etc. and advanced replacement for $13k or less if anyone is interested.
Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:01 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: > > What's the HP high power? What's the cost on that bad boy? > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> IP20C HP. Get a new FCC license :) You'll have another polarity to use later >> or in another direction. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or >>> 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte >>>> and larger...it's a curve. >>>> >>>> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be >>>> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' >>>> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same >>>> size dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always >>>> cheapest... >>>> >>>> -Jon >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater >>>>> throughput? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet >>>>>> was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP >>>>>> throughput that you can expect. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> It’s really 60! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 60 MHz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5960.0250 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6212.0650 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6019.3250 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6271.3650 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6078.6250 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6330.6650 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6137.9250 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6389.9650 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. >>>>>>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available >>>>>>> on the orthogonal polarization. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel >>>>>>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything >>>>>>> in 6 GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the >>>>>>> antenna rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that >>>>>>> won’t give you enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given >>>>>>> that 6 GHz is subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t >>>>>>> kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or >>>>>>> behind the times. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mike Hammett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 >>>>>>> GHz... IIRC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel >>>>>>> widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels >>>>>>> exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means >>>>>>> you need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having >>>>>>> a radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other >>>>>>> than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify >>>>>>> sparing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: TJ Trout >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! >>>>>>> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to >>>>>>> go? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 11 ghz integra >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>>>> >>>>>>> President >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @aeronetpr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: TJ Trout <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM >>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz >>>>>>> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the >>>>>>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much >>>>>>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking >>>>>>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What >>>>>>> are my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ? >>>>>>> >
