I’m curious also. I have 13 ExtremeAir links, and a few G2 and ExploreAir.


On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> What kind of problems, and what model?
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> The G2 links we put in just worked.  Granted that is their entry level model, 
> maybe less to go wrong.
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> From: Steve Utick
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> My problem is at this point, I've had so many problems with Exalt that I'm 
> not sure I'd buy another one of their radios period....
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> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:31 AM, SmarterBroadband 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> You could also look at the Exalt ExtremeAir.
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> 2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
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> Does a Gig.
> 
> Adam
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> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> What is my least expensive option for getting  more bandwidth in 6ghz or 
> 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better?
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> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte 
> and larger...it's a curve.
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> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be 
> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' 
> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size 
> dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest...
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> -Jon
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
> That sounds backwards.  Why would smaller packets net you greater throughput?
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It's really 60.  Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet was 
> a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP throughput 
> that you can expect.
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> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
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> It’s really 60!
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> 60 MHz
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> CH
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> N(
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> G(
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> 1
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> 5960.0250
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> 6212.0650
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> 2
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> 6019.3250
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> 6271.3650
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> 3
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> 6078.6250
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> 6330.6650
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> 4
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> 6137.9250
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> 6389.9650
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> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment.  If 
> x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the 
> orthogonal polarization.
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> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
> 
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> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
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> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel than to 
> find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 GHz, 
> mainly because of antenna size.  Yes the FCC did relax the antenna rules to 
> allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you enough gain 
> unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is subject to multipath 
> fades.  So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I 
> could easily be wrong or behind the times.
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> From: Mike Hammett
> 
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM
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> To: [email protected]
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 
> GHz...  IIRC.
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> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
> 
> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel 
> widths can be licensed in what bands.  I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 
> 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to 
> license 2 adjacent channels.  There is no benefit to having a radio that does 
> 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having 
> consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing.
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> From: TJ Trout
> 
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM
> 
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! 
> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go?
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> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 11 ghz integra
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> Gino A. Villarini
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> President
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> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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> www.aeronetpr.com  
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> @aeronetpr
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> From: TJ Trout <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio 
> in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?
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> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most 
> economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 
> 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying 
> another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that 
> won't cost an arm and a leg ?
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