When were these purchased? Was it after their organization/ownership change, or before that? Just wondering if that is a factor.
FWIW we found the Exalt slip fit mount was a tight fit on the Radiowaves antennas we bought, but it was mainly learning to use the latches to pull it tight and not try to do it by hand. But if you’ve gone through a bunch of radios you already know this. What brand antennas? From: Steve Utick Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? We have three G2 links in currently. We had problems with two of those. One, the radio died a few hours after we put it up. The other link, the snout on the radio was too small to fit over the feedhorn on the antenna. Of course, both of these issues had "Never been seen before" at Exalt. The ExploreAir LR link we are having problems with, I've been through 5 radios to get two that somewhat work. We are still off by 8db on the path though, and have OOB Management issues that they haven't been able to resolve. We've been fighting this link for a couple of months now, and still haven't passed traffic over it... On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]> wrote: I’m curious also. I have 13 ExtremeAir links, and a few G2 and ExploreAir. On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: What kind of problems, and what model? The G2 links we put in just worked. Granted that is their entry level model, maybe less to go wrong. From: Steve Utick Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? My problem is at this point, I've had so many problems with Exalt that I'm not sure I'd buy another one of their radios period.... On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:31 AM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> wrote: You could also look at the Exalt ExtremeAir. 2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit. Does a Gig. Adam From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> wrote: compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte and larger...it's a curve. Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... -Jon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater throughput? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP throughput that you can expect. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote: It’s really 60! 60 MHz CH N( G( 1 5960.0250 6212.0650 2 6019.3250 6271.3650 3 6078.6250 6330.6650 4 6137.9250 6389.9650 As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the orthogonal polarization. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 GHz... IIRC. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: 11 ghz integra Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: TJ Trout <[email protected]> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote: So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ?
