All of our Exalt stuff is over the last year.   My personal feeling is that
there are a LOT of quality control issues happening over the last year with
the employee buyout/organization change.

There was no way this one was going to fit.   It just flat wasn't milled
out big enough.   We could have maybe made it fit with a bigger hammer, but
I didn't really want to do that.   When we got the replacement radio, it
fit right on the antenna, so it was clearly a problem with the radio.   I
think it's all been RadioWaves antennas.



On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

>   When were these purchased?  Was it after their organization/ownership
> change, or before that?  Just wondering if that is a factor.
>
> FWIW we found the Exalt slip fit mount was a tight fit on the Radiowaves
> antennas we bought, but it was mainly learning to use the latches to pull
> it tight and not try to do it by hand.  But if you’ve gone through a bunch
> of radios you already know this.  What brand antennas?
>
>
>  *From:* Steve Utick <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 1:43 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>
>  We have three G2 links in currently.   We had problems with two of
> those.  One, the radio died a few hours after we put it up.   The other
> link, the snout on the radio was too small to fit over the feedhorn on the
> antenna.   Of course, both of these issues had "Never been seen before" at
> Exalt.
>
> The ExploreAir LR link we are having problems with, I've been through 5
> radios to get two that somewhat work.   We are still off by 8db on the path
> though, and have OOB Management issues that they haven't been able to
> resolve.    We've been fighting this link for a couple of months now, and
> still haven't passed traffic over it...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I’m curious also. I have 13 ExtremeAir links, and a few G2 and
>> ExploreAir.
>>
>>
>>  On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   What kind of problems, and what model?
>>
>> The G2 links we put in just worked.  Granted that is their entry level
>> model, maybe less to go wrong.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Steve Utick <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>
>>  My problem is at this point, I've had so many problems with Exalt that
>> I'm not sure I'd buy another one of their radios period....
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:31 AM, SmarterBroadband <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  You could also look at the Exalt ExtremeAir.
>>>
>>> 2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
>>>
>>> Does a Gig.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is my least expensive option for getting  more bandwidth in 6ghz or
>>> 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at
>>> 256byte and larger...it's a curve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be
>>> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing'
>>> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size
>>> dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   That sounds backwards.  Why would smaller packets net you greater
>>> throughput?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   It's really 60.  Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every
>>> packet was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP
>>> throughput that you can expect.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   It’s really 60!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *60 MHz *
>>>
>>> *CH*
>>>
>>> *N(*
>>>
>>> *G(*
>>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>> 5960.0250
>>>
>>> 6212.0650
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>> 6019.3250
>>>
>>> 6271.3650
>>>
>>> 3
>>>
>>> 6078.6250
>>>
>>> 6330.6650
>>>
>>> 4
>>>
>>> 6137.9250
>>>
>>> 6389.9650
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment.
>>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on
>>> the orthogonal polarization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel
>>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6
>>> GHz, mainly because of antenna size.  Yes the FCC did relax the antenna
>>> rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you
>>> enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is
>>> subject to multipath fades.  So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you
>>> can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6
>>> GHz...  IIRC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel
>>> widths can be licensed in what bands.  I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist
>>> in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need
>>> to license 2 adjacent channels.  There is no benefit to having a radio that
>>> does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe
>>> having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* TJ Trout <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz!
>>> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 11 ghz integra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *TJ Trout <[email protected]>
>>> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz
>>> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the
>>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much
>>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking
>>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are
>>> my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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