What kind of problems, and what model?

The G2 links we put in just worked.  Granted that is their entry level model, 
maybe less to go wrong.


From: Steve Utick 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?

My problem is at this point, I've had so many problems with Exalt that I'm not 
sure I'd buy another one of their radios period....




On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:31 AM, SmarterBroadband <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  You could also look at the Exalt ExtremeAir. 

  2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.

  Does a Gig.

  Adam



  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?



  What is my least expensive option for getting  more bandwidth in 6ghz or 
11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better?



  On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte 
and larger...it's a curve. 



  Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be 
slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' 
during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size 
dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest...



  -Jon



  Sent from my iPhone



  On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
    That sounds backwards.  Why would smaller packets net you greater 
throughput?






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    On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

      It's really 60.  Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet 
was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP throughput 
that you can expect.



      On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

        It’s really 60!



              60 MHz 
             
              CH
             N(
             G(
             
              1
             5960.0250
             6212.0650
             
              2
             6019.3250
             6271.3650
             
              3
             6078.6250
             6330.6650
             
              4
             6137.9250
             6389.9650
             



        As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment.  
If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the 
orthogonal polarization. 



        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
        Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM


        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?



        In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?



        I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel 
than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 
GHz, mainly because of antenna size.  Yes the FCC did relax the antenna rules 
to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you enough gain 
unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is subject to multipath 
fades.  So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I 
could easily be wrong or behind the times.



        From: Mike Hammett 

        Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM

        To: [email protected] 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?



        30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 
GHz...  IIRC.



        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com




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        From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?

        I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel 
widths can be licensed in what bands.  I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 
GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to 
license 2 adjacent channels.  There is no benefit to having a radio that does 
80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having 
consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing.





        From: TJ Trout 

        Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM

        To: [email protected] 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?



        11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! 
Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go?



        On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        11 ghz integra







        Gino A. Villarini

        President

        Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

        www.aeronetpr.com   

        @aeronetpr







        From: TJ Trout <[email protected]>
        Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
        Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
        To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?



        I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz 
radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?

        On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:

        So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the 
most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 
2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying 
another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that 
won't cost an arm and a leg ?











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