We try to push it as low as we can go. Love to see those < 5ms latencies to google.com. If we can get the overall latency down, then the other stuff is gravy.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/14/2015 6:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A lot of WISPs get hardons over low latencies, but as long as end-to-end is under 100 ms or so, it doesn't really matter.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:39:27 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

I wonder if WISPs are going to be part of a trend toward higher latencies.
It used to be customers mainly did web browsing and really noticed whether the websites snapped up immediately or lagged. Now everyone is streaming, streaming, streaming. And websites are more worried about tracking cookies and on-the-fly ad auctions for your eyeballs than responsiveness. Plus people use mobile devices and are accustomed to the higher last mile latency of 3G and LTE. Still it’s a little disappointing to backslide on latency because customers don’t value quick response like they used to. They just want mass quantities of data to watch video, as cheap as possible.
I guess gamers still care about ping times.
*From:* Erich Kaiser <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:44 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
I would assume AF5x is going to be the same issue if you are using GPS?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I can't afford 8-12ms of latency 7 hops out... Time for some Full
    Duplex links I suppose....

    Kurt Fankhauser

    Wavelinc Communications

    P.O. Box 126

    Bucyrus, OH 44820

    http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

    tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

    fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>

    On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Erich Kaiser
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        The Mimosa seems awesome so far (Except for lack of SNMP
        support, which is coming in April).  If you have GPS sync it
        seems to run between 8ms-12ms.

        Erich Kaiser
        North Central Tower Consulting
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Office: 630-621-4804 <tel:630-621-4804>
        Cell: 630-777-9291 <tel:630-777-9291>

        On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I was hoping to replace a Ligowave link I have that's
            running on 40mhz. I don't feel like burning up a whole
            80mhz of spectrum through, so I think I'll be buying a
            PTP-650 especially since I need DFS freq's.

            Kurt Fankhauser

            Wavelinc Communications

            P.O. Box 126

            Bucyrus, OH 44820

            http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

            tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

            fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>

            On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Jeremy
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                I see that they sell them on the 'Trango store' now
                too.  Pretty sweet.
                On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm
                    also.  It seems like doing something specific or
something in the wrong order makes them not work. Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.
                    On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        Jeremy,
                        I ended up having to default the units and
                        then follow the quick start guide to the T.
                        There must be some bugs to work out in the
                        firmware cause when I ordered them the guy
                        told me to follow the quick start to the T.


                        Kurt Fankhauser

                        Wavelinc Communications

                        P.O. Box 126

                        Bucyrus, OH 44820

                        http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

                        tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

                        fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>


                        On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            I also didn't follow the guide the first
                            time. On subsequent attempts I did, but it
                            seemed like something was wrong with them
                            at that point. Anyway, it's nice to see
                            someone having some success. The platform
                            looks like it has a lot of potential.
                            On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt
                            Fankhauser <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                Jeremy,
                                Yes I had issues but I didn't call
                                support. It took me almost 2 hours to
                                get the two radios to see each other
                                but I finally got them too. I wasn't
                                following the PTP quick start guide
                                like I was told to. When I initially
                                configured the radios I disabled the
                                2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
                                For some reason they would not link
                                until I turned it back on. Even though
                                I wasn't using the WAN port.


                                Kurt Fankhauser

                                Wavelinc Communications

                                P.O. Box 126

                                Bucyrus, OH 44820

                                http://www.wavelinc.com
                                <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

                                tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

                                fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>


                                On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM,
                                Jeremy <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    I had some issues with the
                                    configuration and couldn't ever
                                    get them to pass traffic.  Did you
                                    run into any issues that required
                                    support?
                                    On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM,
                                    Rory Conaway
                                    <[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                    wrote:

                                        I saw that too when I was
                                        reviewing the brochure this
                                        morning. I was just assuming
                                        they were considering this a
                                        long range product. Kurt, do
                                        you mind telling me what those
                                        radios cost?

                                        Rory

                                        *From:*Af
                                        [mailto:[email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>]
                                        *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
                                        *Sent:* Friday, February 13,
                                        2015 7:36 PM
                                        *To:* [email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango
                                        Altum AC PTP test results

                                        Just got done testing a Trango
                                        Altum AC PTP link on the
                                        bench. Units are 25db
                                        integrated panels. Did a 40mhz
                                        channel test and 80mhz via
                                        UDP. I tried a TCP test
                                        between two RB2011's and best
                                        I seen was 175-180'ish and
                                        that was with both 40 and
                                        80mhz channels. CPU seemed to
                                        be maxing out on the 2011's.

                                        Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands.
                                        I was hoping it had the middle
                                        DFS bands but it doesn't :(

                                        Kurt Fankhauser

                                        Wavelinc Communications

                                        P.O. Box 126

                                        Bucyrus, OH 44820

                                        http://www.wavelinc.com
                                        <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

                                        tel. 419-562-6405
                                        <tel:419-562-6405>

                                        fax. 419-617-0110
                                        <tel:419-617-0110>



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