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From: "Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network torouted. 
(More Info)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 12:19 PM


Yes.  MRTG is free, but will make you crazy to admin if you have more than a 
dozen devices to monitor.

Cacti is really free, other than your time.  Lots of working examples.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/9/2015 10:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Am I thinking of MRTG?  One of them is free....
> PRTG is free if you don’t monitor over 5 devices isn’t it?
> *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 11:15 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > network 
> torouted. (More Info)
> Not free. http://www.paessler.com/prtg/price_list
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] > 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     PRTG is free and will monitor all your stuff if you fire up an
>     internal subnet for it.
>     *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:43 AM
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>     network torouted. (More Info)
>
>     Alright so I have always said I am not proud too admit when I am
>     uneducated in an area if it means learning something I need to
>     know. So as embarrassing as it is Ill open to robe.
>
>     All  APs are Cambium FSK and we are now deploying the PMP450 as
>     well. Backhauls are a mix of companies but we are looking to try
>     and standardize, Cambium, and Ligowave are the most used.
>
>     Ill just use one site because they are all evolved in a similar
>     way. But we have several different sites that are all very similar.
>
>     The site I would like to do first is Tower one, 5 FSK APs (PMP450
>     coming soon) This site has a shed no heat and my equipment at the
>     base is secured in a locking large steel box. Think of a truck
>     tool box. Backhauled to Tower 2 through Ligowave and tower two has
>     5 FSK APs and one PMP450. This site is really remote no roads and
>     its all tied together in a weatherproof box.
>
>     So no managed switches, Single IP and DHCP. Never went then way of
>     NAT.
>
>     We have no real monitoring for customers date use, we limit up and
>     down speeds at the SM. We don’t shape no caps you get the idea. So
>     existing equipment is useless for this process. Our customers are
>     quite happy with the services but I am blind. I will most likely
>     double my size in the next 6 months and I can’t keep doing it this
>     way.
>
>     Brandon
>
>     *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>     *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 AM
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>     networktorouted.
>
>     Also, depending on your monitoring system, you should be able to
>     track CPE and AP bandwidth as is.
>
>     On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     The availability of inexpensive Mikrotik routers made this much
>     less of an issue than it used to be.  Even at micropops that I
>     bridge, I put a small Mikrotik like a 450G or a 2011 there as a
>     managed switch.  That way it can be converted to routed, often
>     without a truck roll.
>
>     One question is how you assign IP addresses to customers.  Static
>     with NAT in CPE?  DHCP? PPPoE?  Do you NAT multiple customers to
>     one public IP?  This may determine which approach is easiest to
>     migrate to.  Router at each tower with block of public IPs?  VLANs
>     to central site with big central router?
>
>     *From:*That One Guy <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>     *Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 10:23 AM
>
>     *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>     networktorouted.
>
>     not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged
>     network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about,
>     it may be a cost effective solution for you as well.
>
>     I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out
>     from under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell
>     you, a 50/50 network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you
>     do, make sure you have all your routers on your desk before you begin
>
>     On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.
>
>         A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.
>
>         How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the
>         sites capable of supporting VLANs?  That is where I would
>         start. Either that or replacing the switches with routers.
>         Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via managed
>         switches would be my preference.
>
>         *From:*Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>         *Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
>
>         *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>         *Subject:*[AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
>         network torouted.
>
>         I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to
>         routed. This is something I don’t have a lot of background in
>         but I also don’t want to end the process having a system I
>         can’t fix so I will need someone that is willing to both do
>         the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how the
>         process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour
>         a week working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
>
>         My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see
>         bandwidth use per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking
>         both long term. We are just to blind right now and starting to
>         really grow again I need to get it under control now before we
>         get to large.
>
>         I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased
>         microtik and butches scripts which after trying and failing to
>         get it to work never implemented.
>
>         Contact me off list [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> if you can help.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Brandon Yuchasz
>
>         GogebicRange.net
>
>
>
>     -- >
>     If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>     your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
>     the team.
>


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